Chances of Lyme Disease ?

silencerS8

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My family went camping the weekend and my wife ended up with a tick that we removed sucessfully. Should she go to the doctor to be tested ? I mentioned to wait to see what the bite area turns out to look like, but then I'm thinking that maybe too late. Thanks Vic
 
Not to worry Vic. It is quite common. There will be many more if you stay in the woods. If it is a bad bite, there will be no doubt. She is gonna experience a littel itching from a normal bite.

A lyme bite will be a large reddish bullseye. You will definately know the difference
 
If your wife feels any symptoms of flu-like illness have her go to the doctor immediately. If it's caught early they should put her on a 10-day course of oral doxycycline or other oral antibiotics including amoxicillin. Here are some pics of the bulls eye rash.

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Hope this helps.

Lyme disease is only really bad if you don't do anything about it or let it go too long.
 
I knew about the flu-like symptoms but I didn't know about that bullseye info and the photos really help. Thanks

Ticks are nasty but all too common when you spend time in the outdoors. They aren't as nasty as leaches though. I never did "get used to" them.
 
She doesnt want to go but we are keeping a close eye on it and how she feels. Thanks for the very good info.
I feel way guilty about this because we used our bed comforter as a blanket and after the 4hr drive home last night I was very tired and neglected to wash it before putting it back on our bed when she woke up this morning with the tick. Its hard enough to get her out camping then this happens due to my stupidity.

Thanks again Vic
 
Vic-In lots of areas it would be unusual to NOT pick up a few ticks after walking through grass, underbrush, etc. Kind of like getting bitten by mosquitos, it's just going to happen, but it's no big deal.

Like mosquitos, there are repellants you can use, but nothing is going to be 100% effective. I hope this hasn't put your wife off of camping, but the truth is, there are critters of all sizes that live in the wild, and if you want to be out there, you just have to learn to live with them.
 
I've been using permethrin clothing treatment for my outer clothing for about 6-7yrs now, it's applied to your clothing and is 100% effective in killing/repelling ticks and preventing them from getting to your skin, they don't survive in contact with it for long. I've had ticks on me several times, but they fall off after just a few minutes crawling on the fabric. It works for about a month even after washing 3 or 4 times. Great stuff!!

A pair of tick gaurds worn over pant cuff and boots keep em from crawling up from below.


Tim

http://www.permethrin-repellent.com/

http://www.travmed.com/trip_prep/insect_permethrin.htm
 
Do not take any chances. My mother has Lyme disease and it has been heck on her. You do not always have the rash. Again because this is very important YOU DO NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE RASH. I have personally seen the destruction this disease can cause a family. The best thing to do is keep the tick and as said before any flu like symptoms go to the doctor immediately. If you get to the disease as fast as possible then you have a great chance of never having any problems. If you don't then it can really mess up your life.

As an aside there is a vaccine for Lyme but the drug company is to scared of lawsuits to release it.
 
I was diagnosed with Lymes Disease several weeks after this past Spring's turkey season. I had flu-like symptoms- hurt everywhere! I also ran fever 100-101 for 9 days. Of 38 possible symptoms, I had over 20 of them. Sickest I've been in a long time. However.. I NEVER developed the bull-eye rash or any other unusal bite symptoms. I was laid up for weeks and still have some symptoms. It's a horrible roller coaster ride. I was told this could go on for years.

Keeping the "tick" would've been a joke! I was literally covered in ticks this year, even using bug spray didn't seem to help. It seemed to just attract them more.

To add insult to injury... I was bitten by a brown recluse several weeks later on the neck. It's been a rough summer.
 
Please correct me if Im wrong. Lyme Disease is spread to humans by the deer tick which is small 1/16ish size. The "normal" we call them wood ticks( more like 3/16 long) but I think their called dog tick do not transfer this disease. Am I correct on this? the dog tick is what most people get and find. The deer tick is seldomfound or felt biting. Am I correct on this?
 


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The Lyme disease bacterium, Borrelia burgdorferi, normally lives in mice, squirrels and other small animals. It is transmitted among these animals – and to humans -- through the bites of certain species of ticks.
In the northeastern and north-central United States, the blacklegged tick (or deer tick, Ixodes scapularis) transmits Lyme disease. In the Pacific coastal United States, the disease is spread by the western blacklegged tick (Ixodes pacificus). Other tick species found in the United States have not been shown to transmit Borrelia burgdorferi. Blacklegged ticks live for two years and have three feeding stages: larvae, nymph, and adult. When a young tick feeds on an infected animal, the tick takes the bacterium into its body along with the blood meal.
The bacterium then lives in the gut of the tick. If the tick feeds again, it can transmit the bacterium to its new host. Usually the new host is another small rodent, but sometimes the new host is a human.
Most cases of human illness occur in the late spring and summer when the tiny nymphs are most active and human outdoor activity is greatest.

Although adult ticks often feed on deer, these animals do not become infected. Deer are nevertheless important in transporting ticks and maintaining tick populations.



http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/ld_transmission.htm
 
So I was correct. I think (I could be wrong) if someone was to get bit by a deer tick they would never know it. While dog tick are what people "normally" find biting them. Not that they dont carry other things but not Lyme disease. Am I correct with this?
 
Pretty much! The black legged tick is the only carrier of Lyme and the nymph stage, which is the first stage they could be carriers, is pretty small compared to the others, so it could easily be undetected.

A barber friend has found several tick bites on customers that had been undetected, they're easily missed on the head. I keep my hair short for that very reason, just in case.

We do tick checks immediately when we leave the woods, more than once I've found ticks on my huntin partner's neck, he just this year decided to start using pemethrin on his clothing since he's never found a tick on me since I started using it, he's always been a DEET user, not anymore.

Tim
 
Thank you all very much for the great info. So far she feels great, no fever or soreness, just as ornery as ever /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Steppinwolf, thats just terrible. I hope fall brings you better luck. We dont have brown recluse up this way thank goodness. I've seen some nasty pictures from their bits.

Vic
 
Had Lymes in 1991. Woke up shaking last thursday am Fri am I am in the E.R. Had a fever of at least 101.5 to 104 till Sunday afternoon. 2 different doctors looking at me; 1 says probaly Lymes the other says Urinary tract infection. in and out of fevers every year since 91. Up here in minn and wisc wee are starting to accept that all the ticks are possible carriers.
 
Some good info here and some bad. As president of a local Lyme Disease Association, I know more about this subject than hunting predators. First off,the larger dog ticks are better known for transmitting Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever and rabbit fever aka tuleremia. Approx. 30% of infected deer tick bites result in the bulleyes rash. Ten days of antibiotics is a joke. Some patients are on meds for years. The medical community is missing the boat on this subject.
Many doctors are clueless about the coinfections that can transmitted along with the Lyme bacteria. "Two weeks of antibiotics and you're cured" is all they hear about it in medical school. The most commonly used test-the ELISA is over 60% INACCURATE resulting in many false negatives. With most folks not presenting with the rash and the poor testing combined with the lack of knowledgable physicians it's easy to see most patients aren't getting proper diagnosis and treatment. Even the hapless, incompentant, corrupt CDC admits at least 90% of Lyme cases are being missed. To those who think living with ticks is not a big deal, I vehemently disagree. I watched my oldest child writhe in pain for MONTHS and not get out of bed for days on end. I witnessed her sister scream out at night and sweat gallons while having horrific nightmares. I saw their oldest brother not keep down a solid meal as a toddler for weeks at a time and go through vivid hallucinations claiming he saw "little men" running across his bedroom floor with a look on his face as if he'd seen the devil himself. My wife was nearly too sick take care of three sick little ones while pregnant with our soon to be born (and sick) fourth child. I worked at my contracting business for years with daily migraines that would drop a rhino while nearly drowning in debt from medical bills. There were some weeks I couldn't get out of bed from extreme head to toe muscle and joint pain where I could do nothing but curl up and cry like a baby. Our insurance company would not cover most bills from a Lyme literate physician we found because he was out of state and his treatment methods did not fit within the medical guidelines that they wrote for "mainstream medicine". My family went through two years of hell on earth from this devastating disease. Three years later we are healthy again and digging out of the financial hole a few tickbites put us in. I receive calls weekly from all over the country and hear stories that make mine sound like a walk in the park. Some of these calls are from spouses or family members of people who jumped off buildings or blew their heads off because the bacteria had reached their brains and they didn't know where else to turn. Most never knew what ailed them and had been to 10 to 20 doctors looking for help. Links between Lyme and ALS,MS,Alzheimers,heart disease,diabetes,lupus and autism are being researched. For prevention, tick checks and permethrin are very effective. After everything we've been through, nothing is going to keep us out of the woods but we are not going to be stupid about it either. Anyone can send me a PM if they have questions.

Signed,

Redeyeddawg
Dale E. King

President of the Lyme Disease Association of the Eastern Shore Of Maryland
 
Redeyeddawg, just over the PA border near Hampstead MD is where we were camping. She feels great, no sickness what so ever. Thank the good lord above.
Thank you for the input and if I have any more questions you'll be the first I'll ask.

Vic
 
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