Check out what UPS did to my Mark V !!!!!

A couple friends had the same thing happen. I don't trust UPS with firearms. Gun related stuff has arrived here so badly damaged or with things missing that it could only have been deliberate. I've no doubt there are some anti gun UPS employees along the chain who do this kind of thing.
 
Sorry to see that.That looks pretty bad.What can Brown Do For You they break stuff all the time. That why you ship FEDEX. Im not saying.
 
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Originally Posted By: tuneredHow did the base and rings get on there???? You sure it wasnt in a lead sled?????

Lets not be stupid, the foam is not even damaged where the stock is broken, look and see. Dont you see?????? ed

Where ya headed here Ed?

From the pictures I'm able to see, I can't tell to a whole lot about the condition of the foam. Maybe some were deleted and I didn't see them?

I can certainly picture this rifle in a box with the butt end resting on something, the forend resting on something else and then something fairly heavy being thrown on top of it in the center, thereby breaking the stock as shown. No?

I've never used or seen a lead sled being used to hold and fire a rifle (except a TV commercial). Is a stock breaking in this manner something that is not unheard of when clamped in a lead sled?

Sorry to be stupid, but I just dunno.
 
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Had a friend that got a rifle shipped thru ups that had a tire track on the box and the stock was broken at the wrist. He said if guns are shipped thru the St. Louis hub of ups they seem to be more apt to be damaged. I guess someone in St louis is an anti and thinks his antics are funny. They should hang an idiot that would damage others property up by his ho-hum and use him for batting practice.
Just a thought.
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Hey Guy's,

Here are a few pictures of the box. There wasn't much damage to the box, other than a couple of dents that could have been the pressure point that broke the stock. There were however what appeared to be two large grease stains on the bottom of the box. Not sure if it was from a conveyor belt or what and don't know if it had anything to do with the break.

The styrofoam has some obvious signs of stress as well, but it's hard to show in pictures.

I'm just so pissed at this whole situation, because no one will ever know how much stress the gun was put under. All I know is, this gun will always be damaged goods to me, no matter what. It's like buying a brand new car and [beeep] near totaling it on the way home from the dealership.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised at all if some anti-gun employee intentionally did this.

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Heres where im headed, I have bought many rifles over the years, and not one ever came with aftermarket redfield style rings and bases, I will stick to my theory that this rifle was tied down in a lead sled, most stocks that have been damaged by shipping will splinter at one break or another. Sorry to be the non believer. ed
 
Hmmm, by looking at the box (cardboard) I don't see where it is showing enough damage to be the cause of the severe damage to the rifle.

Curious as to WHO took the gun to UPS to be shipped to you? Who did the boxing/packaging before being taken to UPS?

Got anymore pictures of the strofoam? Top, bottom, sides?

That cardboard box SHOULD show some MAJOR damage. I ain't seeing it.
 
I ship about 100 guitars/year via UPS. In the past 11 years (that's 1100 guitars in and 1100 guitars out, for a total of about 2200 transits), I've have 4 damages. Not all were serious. In fact, I only made claims on one.

Here's the important part- it's the SHIPPER who has to pursue the claim, not the receiver (you). It will be up to them to file for insurance and etc. In my cases, I simply took care of the problem for the customer and then I filed the claim w/ UPS. I've done the same thing with Fed Ex and USPS, too. USPS was the best to work with, IME. They paid w/out any fuss although it did take 6 months. UPS was extremely picky (capitalization!!!) but I got money from them in 2 months.
 
I'm thinking tunered is headed in the right direction.

Even more interested in WHO you got the rifle from now.

That box looks in 100% excellent, Grade A, #1 condition compared to the one UPS brought to me.
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I really didn't want to go here but, the gun came from Weatherby. I bought the gun brand new in February and later discovered some issues with the finish. I called Weatherby and they said no problem in warranting the old stock with a new, if it indeed had issues.

I had a business trip to Los Angeles in May so I brought the gun with me on the airlines, minus the scope. I transported it in a hard side Pelican gun case. Made the almost 5 hour drive to Paso Robles from L.A and spent the night in a hotel on my own dime.

I met with the guys at Weatherby and they replaced my original stock with a brand new one that I hand picked. Their service and attention in the matter was impeccable. I decide to let them ship the gun back since I still had 3 days of work in L.A and didn't want to leave the gun in my hotel room for obvious reasons. They elected not to use my Pelican case and against my better judgement I allowed them to use their own shipping box. I was assured it would be packaged appropriatley. I feel it was, for most normal shipping conditions. Obviously what my gun encountered on the way to Texas via UPS wasn't normal.

I'm just as perplexed as the rest of you about the minimal damage to the box. I know the gun was in good shape before it left Weatherby, because I held it in my hands. As I said, I hand picked the stock and thoroughly inspected it before and after they mounted it to my action.

As for who is handling the claim, it's Weatherby obviously. They are taking the appropriate steps, but from the sounds of it thus far, I'm going to be lucky if UPS replaces the whole gun. At this point Weatherby can't say how it's going to go until they get the gun back and inspect it themselves, which I totally understand. As I said, from the people I've talked to, UPS is going to get off as cheap as possible.

Sorry if some of you are confused, I just didn't want to bring Weatherby into this because they have been so good to me thus far. I'm just so upset about this and wanted to ask everyone for their opinion on what they would expect if this had happend to them. I'm by no means trying to start a pissing match and am not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes.
This is the gun I've always wanted and finally made it to a point in my life where I could afford it and now I'm dealing with this BS. Heck the gun only has a total of 40 rounds through it.
 
Thanks. Clears up alot of things.

Doesn't help one bit explaining the lack of visable damage to the box though. Still like to see some other pictures of the actual styrofoam. That styrofoam looks to be of the brittle type. Seems like it should show more than being stressed. Broken comes to mind.

Good luck man.

Shoulda went with a Remington! (just kidding :))
 
Originally Posted By: doggin coyotesThanks. Clears up alot of things.

Doesn't help one bit explaining the lack of visable damage to the box though. Still like to see some other pictures of the actual styrofoam. That styrofoam looks to be of the brittle type. Seems like it should show more than being stressed. Broken comes to mind.

Good luck man.

Shoulda went with a Remington! (just kidding :))

Actually, the styrofaom is really soft. Not brittle at all. Probably why it wasn't craked or broken.
As I said in an earlier post, the box has a couple of small areas where it looks as if alot of pressure was applied.
Heck, who knows.

Also, I was just informed UPS is coming to my house to inspect the pacakge and the gun. I'll let everyone know how it turns out.
 
Bummer.
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The airline monkeys broke the stock on my Sako L691 on the return trip from Africa a few years ago in a similar manner (just through the wrist). Unfortunately for me, I failed to unpack the gun case for a few days after returning, so I was unable to report the damage within the required timeframe, so repair was on my dime. I shipped it to a stock fixer-upper guy who said it looked like a pre-existing flaw in the stock that was bound to break eventually. As clean as the break appears in yours, I wonder if it's not the same thing.

Oh, for what it's worth, I got my stock repaired with a steel rod through the wrist and solid beddind and the gun shoots better now than before. Yours does not appear repairable though, so good luck with the insurance claim. If you fail to get a full replacement, I recommend having Weatherby inspect the barreled action thoroughly to ensure it's good to go with the new stock.
 
O_O ive seen a shotgun get used as a baseball bat against an attacking coon and the stock survived (true story too ). but for that to happen they literally had to run it over with a 747.

i say at a very minimum you get a new stock and maybe a good apology and free First Class super de duper priority shipping for at least a year. (even though i wouldnt ship with them again if at all posible) but can you find any damage to the metal workings to where you could get them to replace the whole gun?
 
Yikes man that's tough!

Not the same but I've known numerous people that have lost all their hunting gear while flying. As in it never shows up ever!
Most get something like $350 dollars and that's it. Not much when it's a bag full of rangefinders, binocolars, camo etc.
One hunter from Boston documented in video everything he packed for his flight. It got lost and he was offered the $350 or so. He took them to small claims court and got every penny. I don't think the company even showed up and may have settled before the court date. Something to think about for future travellers.
 
Been there and learned a lot. UPS owns the insurance and they will always blame damage on packing. They stuck a fork from a loader through a cardboard box lined inside with particle board and stabbed a mule deer shoulder mount I had waited on for almost 2 years. It was not pretty but I received satisfactory payment after almost a year battle. Take good pictures of package in and out and damage to your item. Also keep all correspondence. You can usually get the guys to use email. Be firm and watch what you say because you will need copies later. They will alternate between you and the shipper to see if someone will sign off and make the claim go away. They play a lot of tricks and try to wear you down. Be persistent and don't ask for anything out of reason, but a new gun would be reasonable in your case. I finally received my settlement when I had my complaint (complete with pictures and email copies) put on the agenda for a board meeting with the CEO. For some reason, they did not want this discussed at that level.
 
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