cleaning - am I doing it wrong?

Are you using a brass jag, bronze brush, nylon brush??? Some types wil give a false positive with some bore cleaners. It reacts with the jag or bronze brush.
 
I use both brass and nylon depending on the particular cleaner I am using. I do know that some cleaners react with the brass.

It seems that whenever I clean any of my rifles I can never get that "clean" final patch. My typical process is to run a wet patch and then a wet brush down the barrel usually Hoppes, sometimes other cleaners depending on what needs cleaned(sometimes I do lead cleaners). I will then run a couple dry patches and then a wet patch and so forth. The barrel "looks" clean and shiny, but the patches are always show color.

More "scrubbing"?
 
I use wipe out foam. If it's really fouled let it sit awhile in there and the. Clean it well, should help you out a bit.
 
Wipe Out/ Patch out with Nickel Jags (fool-proof). Like was mentioned prior, if it's really nasty let it sit over night and finish in the morning. I still use bronze brushes for the initial cleaning so I know I am breaking free the caked on stuff. After that I use a nylon brush.

Everyone has "their" way and it's oft a heated topic of discussion, so don't expect a direct answer.

Adam
 
Quote:The barrel "looks" clean and shiny, but the patches are always show color.


You never say what "color" your getting?

Why do you want to strip your barrel down to the bare metal? Is this gun going to be stored for awhile,,or you just wanting it super clean?
 
I am with you. I have 4 223's 2 22-250's, and a 17 Fireball. I run a wet patch with Montana Extreme, soak a nylon brush, run 15 to 20 times, wet patch with Montana, wet patch with Hydrogen Peroxide, dry patch 3 or 4 times, but the patches is never really clean, always have black streaks. Finish with Butch's bore oil, 1 patch, and 1 dry patch. I have used all different kinds of cleaners, but is always the same. Sometimes I use Copper cleaner. These rifles have been fired a lot, so the bore's should be real smooth. They all group in the 2's to 6's depending on the rifle.
 
JB bore paste and Kroil might be your best bet if it's heavily fouled. Some factory bores are tough to clean if they are rough. Especially if the round count on them is low. Follow that up with your routine clean and then go shoot it! I am not a obsessive gun cleaner as far as bores go. Start of season before checking zero, between loads if working on hand loads, or midseason if I see a change in accuracy, and end OD season before storage. Or if the round count gets a little high.
 
Years ago I bought a borescope...and did it ever tell a story about "clean" bores. I learned quickly that I was doing it wrong and that I never had a clean bore prior to getting the device. I also learned that copper fouling, sometimes even a little can cause pretty significant accuracy issues. And I learned that JB Bore Cleaner from Brownell's is your friend. Needless to say...a clean patch definitely does not equate to a clean bore either. Many a "clean" patch has slid out of a copper fouled poor shooting barrel.
 
Originally Posted By: AzDiamondHeatWhy do I never get a "clean" patch?

Often times the brush will not touch the powder fouling in the forward end of chamber just before the throat.

Try taking the next larger caliber brush and spinning it in the forward part of the chamber with some cleaner on it. Then try a few patches. I am guessing this will solve your problem.

Jim
 
Originally Posted By: AzDiamondHeatWhy do I never get a "clean" patch?

Any idea on how many rounds have been put shot through the gun?
 


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