COLUMBINE STUDENT'S FATHER 12 YEARS LATER!!

I agree with you that the root problem exists in the nature of humans as a species, but it seems to me you're arguing that religion is a necessary and sufficient condition for morality. I disagree. We can debate that til the cows come home, but to what end?

Regardless, we as gun owners have a problem. For the reasons I list, the "guns don't kill..." argument just does not hold water - It doesn't persuade me and I own multiple semi-autos. The fact is guns make it easier to kill things, people included. If other things worked better, the Marines would carry them. Far too often they fall into the hands of very disturbed people who do horrific things with them. How do we as gun owners deal with that? It is not a simple problem.
 
In 1992 the American Medical Association published an article that roughly said that long term exposure to TV of children starting about 5yo had doubled the homicide rate in the US.They said even if children of that age were told that TV was not real,they could not understand the difference,and by the time they could the part of the brain that controls the natural urge to not kill another of the same species has been desensitized.Further the article said that TV introduced to a region for the first time would see the same increase in homicides in about 15 years where another neighboring region who did not get TV would remain about the same rate it has always been after the same 15 years.Because 15 years is about how long it takes for children to get to the "Killing" age.When you add this to the lack of the belief of God and Heaven and also HeII there is nothing left to strongly deter the thoughts of killing,or any other crimes.I know for a fact that belief in God and eternity have stopped some people from killing when laws or no man could have.I know that this is not maybe a strong argument to give an anti but in reality what would be.They have their mind already made up and would have to change their whole belief system,and not many are going to do that.To start compromising with antis and saying certain guns and mags would be OK to ban is a slippery slope.There will never be an end to some wanting to ban everything thinking that will help,when we all know it will not.We will have to face the facts about the way we are letting TV raise our children,and leaving the love of God out of our lives or it is only going to get worse.I worked in the cable TV industry for 22 years.I have had mothers cry on the phone and beg me to build cable to their house and admit to me that their children were driving them nuts and they could not make it without cable TV.
 
The school has no right to indoctrinate children with religion. That is the parents job. Just like the right or the left have no right.

But I suppose it all comes down to what the indoctrination is right gentleman? It's ok if it's something that follows what you believes, and not ok if it's not.
 
Pole,there are choices in life.Someday,you may be faced with one.To whom do you plan to turn when all else has failed,and your life hangs in the balance.I am not ashamed to say I believe people would be correct if they put their faith in Jesus.
 
Go back in time maybe 75 yrs ago when God was still welcome in our schools, homes, family gatherings and the government. Our country was blessed and prospered, crime rates were small and people helped one another. It was a good place to live because people cared for each other because that was what God intended for us to do. Slowly God was taken out of the schools, homes and government and see what has happened. I firmly believe that our society's problems began when God was shoved aside and won't be fixed until he returns his blessing on this country. I also firmly agree with Tnshootist, Centurion and Rocky. For those who believe, no explanation is necessary. For those who refuse to believe, no explanation is possible. As for our future generation, they are doomed due to the constant violence seen on tv and video games with no hope possible until God is in their hearts. As was mentioned before, weapons with high cyclic rate of fire have been available for many years but were not used to kill innocent children until the past 15 yrs or so. When God was welcome in our nation these things didn't happen.
 
I've been there, recently, where all else had failed, and my life hung in the balance. And the answer was myself. I had to believe in myself, or I'd be dead.

I'm ok with people putting their faith in Jesus too. I just disagree with the notion of forcing it down others throats. I see people who want religion taught in schools as parents who are to lazy to do it themselves, in the home, or the church, where it should really should be explored. Not in the schools.
 
Originally Posted By: PoleskiI've been there, recently, where all else had failed, and my life hung in the balance. And the answer was myself. I had to believe in myself, or I'd be dead.

I'm ok with people putting their faith in Jesus too. I just disagree with the notion of forcing it down others throats. I see people who want religion taught in schools as parents who are to lazy to do it themselves, in the home, or the church, where it should really should be explored. Not in the schools.



Spoken like a true atheist, and likely with a lisp. No wonder you hate the Joos.
 
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