Converting duck gun to predator gun.

Just spend a few days on the stand with that long 28" BBL. You will see that when its across your lap it dang near touches the ground. I find It annoying to have such a long barrel sitting down. When I get some money I want to get a 24" to use for predators and keep the 28" for things that fly.
 
Originally Posted By: TripleDeuce660Just spend a few days on the stand with that long 28" BBL. You will see that when its across your lap it dang near touches the ground. I find It annoying to have such a long barrel sitting down. When I get some money I want to get a 24" to use for predators and keep the 28" for things that fly.


Why do you have it sitting across your lap. I always have mine up and ready. Barrel on the sticks, stock against the shoulder all while blowing the call.
 
Wow. Thanks for all the input folks. Every other forum i've been on would of dissolved into a bunch of arguing and name calling by now if my question would of gotten this many responses. The reason I had considered getting a shorter barrel was that on the coyote in my profile pic, the barrel had snagged up a wad of grass over the front bead when I pulled up to shoot. I generally just prop my gun over my knee and let whoever i'm hunting with have my shooting sticks for thier rifle, because usually they need all the help they can get. And as far as adding a bunch of gadgets on, i'm really just wishlisting at this point and am curious as to what other folks have done to thier scatterguns.
 
Brad to answer your question a shorter barrel will not cause you to lose your patterning and the velocity lost would be minimal. In a earlier reply I made the statement why "I like" a short barreled shotgun. Not to say a 28" or 30" would not do a good job on a coyote. I hunt the same with a shotgun as I do with a rifle I use the wind and the cover. If I have a coyote running past my stands 50% of the time at 30 MPH like a quail then I have another issue, maybe it's a California thing. That being said it's a great sport and most people on here have preferences on calibers and gauges and length of barrels and camo patterns. Try different things and find out what you like best and don't let other people tell you your wrong. Because if that was the case they would only make one caliber and one barrel length. Good Luck!
 
Carlson's sell Benelli Nova barrels now for about the same price as it would cost you to cut your existing barrel and get it re-threaded. I would investigate that route before molesting your barrel now.

While there have been some good points made above, I prefer I shorter shotgun. I shoot both eyes open so the longer sight plane doesnt seem to matter to me. The times I have been shooting sporting clays, I never ran across a station that you were under a bush sitting on your butt with the gun on shooting sticks. I have a SBEII with a 24 inch barrel. I was killing just as well and just as far as guys with 26-30inch barrels, last week when I went for ducks. I just got it a few weeks ago and have drastically improved my scores shooting clays. That said I have spent some time with the weapon and it fits me like a glove. GC made a few good points. Smoke what you got, make sure you got the right choke ammo combo, and now how far the gun is capable.
 
Not to beat a dead horse but I to like a shorter barrel. And also use my turkey gun. Back east it's easier to carry thru the woods if the barrel isn't sticking a foot out to the side or above your head depending on how it's slung. And I feel it easier to swing on target in the same type of cover. Just like every other type of hunting use what your comfortable with and you can't go wrong.
 
Originally Posted By: viperBrad to answer your question a shorter barrel will not cause you to lose your patterning and the velocity lost would be minimal. In a earlier reply I made the statement why "I like" a short barreled shotgun. Not to say a 28" or 30" would not do a good job on a coyote. I hunt the same with a shotgun as I do with a rifle I use the wind and the cover. If I have a coyote running past my stands 50% of the time at 30 MPH like a quail then I have another issue, maybe it's a California thing. That being said it's a great sport and most people on here have preferences on calibers and gauges and length of barrels and camo patterns. Try different things and find out what you like best and don't let other people tell you your wrong. Because if that was the case they would only make one caliber and one barrel length. Good Luck!

viper, what you wrote in this reply is not what I wrote in the reply I made.

I wrote,"At least 50% of the coyotes I kill with a shotgun are running and at times they must be lead just like a bird or a clay target.
Are Turkeys shot when they are flying or running 30 mph?"

Some of the coyotes I shoot at are running very fast and it may be a California thing or it could be the way I set up and shoot coyotes in open country with a shotgun.

Coyotes that run up within shotgun range in open country where there is no cover are usually hard charging in to the e-caller.
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In the above two pictures you can see the coyote is running in on the first picture and in the second picture it is the same coyote that is going to get shot with a shotgun in the second picture.

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In the above two pictures there is a coyote hard charging in.

When more than one coyote comes into shotgun range at a time I have never seen the other coyotes stand around or leave slowly after I have shot at the first one.

Sometimes I take pictures of coyotes while they are running into my e-caller and then shoot them after I drop my camera. I have my 28" barreled Rem 11-87 laying across my lap until I drop my camera.
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I took all of the above 5 pictures and then grabbed my shotgun and shot them. Even when I am not using my camera I never move my shotgun up to the ready position as the coyote is coming in. I just raise it up when I am going to shoot.

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In the above picture you can see why the 28" barreled shotgun is the a good length for us the way we hold our shotguns when we are laying down. The way I end up sitting most of the time it works the same way my 28" barrel is pointing out past my foot.

I guess my point to all of this is, use the shotgun you are used to using. Setting up a dedicated shotgun for coyotes, with a pistol grip and sites that make lift your head off of the stock or force you to aim, may do more harm to your shotgun shooting than good.
 
Awesome pictures Bob! Thanks for sharing. I see what you mean about not shooting yourself in the foot based on how you set up. Would you say that the majority of your hunting takes place in terrain like the first 3 pics? Cause I can see why your barrel hanging up in brush wouldn't be an issue.
 
Brad, I do sit in front of scrub oak trees and juniper bushes quite a bit and have never had a problem swinging my longer barreled shotguns. I don't sit in the brush, I sit in front of it and lean back against it. So when I raise up my shotgun as I am leaning forward to shoot there is no brush interfering with my swing.

I need to be able to shoot to my right and left a full 180 degrees. Since we are right handed we always set up pointing to the right of the caller so we can shoot to the far right. Swinging the shotgun back to the left for a right handed shooter is easy to do. If you are positioned straight at the e-caller it is very difficult to swing to the right.
 
Originally Posted By: derbyacresbobThe only thing shortening the barrel will help you do is shoot yourself in the foot.

I do a lot of predator hunting with my 28" barreled shotgun and I like having the barrel stick out past my foot when I am sitting down or laying down with the shotgun beside me. The 28" barrel sticks out past my feet by about 4".

A waterfowl shotgun makes a much better coyote shotgun than a turkey shotgun does. Longer barrels are much better for swinging on moving targets than short barrels are.

Well Spoken
 
Derby nice pictures, we hunt two different parts of the Country. And use our equipment in different environments. I respect your opinion. Good luck to you.
 


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