coyote attacks 80lb dog in southcentral PA

45lb is pretty big for a coyote. ive heard/read several stories that involve coyotes in groups going after dogs, but lone coyotes attacking is more rare, IMO. Id be worried also about possible rabbies since it was daytime, and the coyote was alone.
 
Mom needs to pick up a Model 1911, get practiced
with it, and get a comfortable tactical holster /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
I wonder if a "labrapoddle" would work for a
decoy here? At least I could probably get lined
up for a shot on Wiley, while he rolled on the
ground laughing at the "dog" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Go to town, to take a walk! Before I'd do
that, I'd be slinging the stubby AR-15, with a
30 round mag locked and loaded, and dare some
critter to attack my Wife, my Lab, and me
when we take our evening walk in the woods.
These folks in PA don't know how lucky they
have it...Evening walk with the varmint rifle!

Squeeze
 
Animals don't have rules...they attack when they feel it is necessary. This coyote thought he had a shot at this dog and took it. We give them credit for keen eyesight and sense of smell, but won't call a spade a spade when WE think the animal is doing something out of what WE perceive is the norm. Of course he knew it was a dog, probably the 3rd one on his menu this week. This coyote obviously did not know there were any pre-conceptions about HIS diet.
 
Doesn't that Pa. Game Commission division employ predator biologists? There is no mystery here. The coyote is being true to it's nature. Mating season occurs roughly from Dec 15 to March 15 and includes courtship and breeding. It is the time of greatest sociality among coyotes and the time of greatest territorial expansion and aggression. This is one of the explanations for the coyotes rapid expansion east of the Mississippi. Quite probably this coyote had found no border markers in the surrounding area, had marked his boundaries himself and now was busily repelling intruders in his territory. The nips and gashes in the hindlegs would be consistant with this behavior. Two 25 lb. coyotes moved in on a suburb in Scottsdale three years ago and in repelling one homeowners 130 lb Rhodesian Ridgeback, cut up his back legs so badly that the dog had to be put down. Good work for two little coyotes. Dogs get in trouble when they are beset by territorial coyotes because they are in their own yards and have nowhere to run.
 
Good call on the whole mating aspect thing. You are probably right. I had two big labs and the bigger "alpha" male would chase and bite the older, bit smaller dog on the hind legs until I finally got rid of his dumb ass. The older dog was a much better hunter and pet (deceased at age 13).
 
I tried chasing the old lady and biting her on the backs of her legs....she kicked the crap out of me....I told her it was mating season....I won't tell you what she said, but she was in TOTAL disagreement /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Rich is right. Sometimes we even capitalize on the fact that territorial coyotes will attack dogs. Here is a picture of one attacking one of my dogs.
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one of the PA Game Comm sites states that we here harvest over 10,000/year last 3 years running so how is it the pop is only 5,000?
 
I'd be slinging the stubby AR-15, with a
30 round mag locked and loaded, and dare some
critter to attack my Wife, my Lab, and me
when we take our evening walk in the woods.
These folks in PA don't know how lucky they
have it...Evening walk with the varmint rifle!
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wish we could here in Pa... BUT the powers to be won't allow us to use autoloading rifles or pistols for anything in the state... you can use autoloading shotguns for deer only in designated areas, and for small game... sure would like to have an accurized AR for sniping...
 
Guy's as far as the biologist in the east knowing what the populations are they are guessing at best. I have been given the figures of anywhere from one coyote for every three miles to as high as a coyote for every half mile in some areas. This si for all of hte eastern half of the U.S. A federal biologist gave me this a couple of years ago.

Population surveys are done with a siren over a long period during hte fall and winter months, mostly by college students working on their degree. Howls are counted as one whether it's a groups response or a single animal. All this is plugged into a mathematical equation and that's your population at that particular place and time.I estimate them to be 25% on the light side. Jimmie
 
I hardly ever get on the Game Commission because by and large I think they do a pretty good job....However that being said, I have to take issue with the guy in that article Don Garner who is the Information and Education Supvr. for the PGC. His first statement was " There is at least 5,000 coyotes living in the state" Then a few lines down farther he says..."The number of coyotes in Pa. is probably as large as it is going to get"

Where did this guy get his info. If I'm not mistaken I just got off the PGC web site and looked up the estimated harvests for coyotes since 1999 and here is it.
1999.....8,797
2000.....10,160
2001.....12,363
2002.....11,444
2003.....11,697
Now if we are harvesting that many per year that means we are only touching about one third of the population which makes it closer to 30,000 living in the state...anyone agree with that dip s$%t ????? Just an observation. And then he said that the number of coyotes in Pa. is as large as its going to get....This guy is smokin something. Why does he think we are seeing more and more of these articles and incidents. There is no natural predator for coyotes in Pa. except man, and we're not puttin a dent in them, so why does he think they are not growing in numbers.
They have a litter most every year with 4 to 6 pups..at the rate I'm killin em I'll never catch up. Somebody should get that guy out of that job real soon.

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knee deep in brass
 
woossy dog, i used to sick my old lab/shorthair cross on everything i caught in a trap, foot in a vice i know, none the less it woulda been that yotes rear!
 


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