Coyote in tall grass-What would you do?

i had a similar situation last winter in north texas
i stalked a coyote that started out to be 1000 yds away
he was on a rise...
everytime he looked my way i was still and camoed and used fence posts to break up my outline (wind was wrong too and he knew something was up...but not enough to run (i hoped)
i stalked him for an hour
10-ft at a time
at about 200 yds he dissapeared into a grass patch (about 3 feet high and 40 yds circumference)
i could see all around the perimeter and i waited abit for him to come out (now i was within 100 yds) he never showed
so i moved slowly toward the patch (not stalking now but approaching as quiet as i could)
i figured worst case (at this point) would be a running shot at about 75 yds which i was confident to make
i reached the grass and NOTHING
thought he would have run by now
i started walking through the grass (they call em ghosts right)
gone...what the heck ???
stood there for what seemed to be 10 minutes
(even turned around)
it was breezy but i noticed the grass about 20 yds behind me moving unusually
well...there was abit of a break in the grass
and i'll be if the coyote hadn't skirted around me
CRAWLING !!!
sneeking slowly and totally aware of my presence
looking at me and crawling some more
finally he bolted and i shot him
i would have done the same thing at your farm
stalked him
you may never see him again
but you talk about a rush (the stalk)
try it sometime

and better luck next time
guero
 
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RC- The CR grass out here will be dead and dried out, still standing 15-24" even thru the winter.

looks like this in the winter (Jan 2009)

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Its really more like straw here than grass.




Looks like you need to stock some prarie dogs in that pasture.
 
Come on! This is a scene right out of that crappy movie "Speed"...the first one, not the second one (which was more of a turd than a movie).

Shoot the hostage!...not in the leg like the movie, but maybe the tail. Then when Fluffy the cat howls and draws out the coyote you make the postive ID and bust him. Short-tailed cats live longer and are much more relaxed around rocking chairs.

So in other words, duckdog had it right.

Note: no cats were harmed in the making of this joke. PM nor sendit223 condone such actions in any way and expressly forbid anyone attempting such a brainless action (which may also be illegal except in Texas). Leave brainless actions to the idiots on the television show Jackass. Any likeness or resemblance in this joke to any persons real or imagined (or humorous for that matter) are purely coincidental and should be ignored.
 
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RC- The CR grass out here will be dead and dried out, still standing 15-24" even thru the winter.

looks like this in the winter (Jan 2009)



Its really more like straw here than grass.





Thats not very tall grass like i have at home.. We get them out the Northlander way.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
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Randy, you offerin to help me stock it ? That picture is actually taken at the end of the block my sister lives on. End of the day photo op in 15 degree weather. I am thinkin the neighbors may not like your 'stocking' idea....its bad enough they have to farm around the little buggers.

Some of the CR grass is waste high, some is ankle high and some barely covers the ground. You want prairie dogs you are looking for the "barely covers the ground" kind. Otherwise they are pretty tough to see.

For coyotes I like to sneak down the blow humps and slip into the edge of some knee high CR grass. But since there is really no irrigation out there every year can be different and what is knee deep this year may be bare next.
 
Get the tractor and bush hog out. Mow some shooting lanes.


PLUS - Mowing the grass will allow shorter grass and flower species to emerge and create more biodiversity for the wildlife on your farm. Now go hug a bunny and shoot a coyote.
 
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Get the tractor and bush hog out. Mow some shooting lanes.


PLUS - Mowing the grass will allow shorter grass and flower species to emerge and create more biodiversity for the wildlife on your farm. Now go hug a bunny and shoot a coyote.



This is dryland farming country. What is called CR grass is exactly that. Conservation Reserve (meaning basically left el naturel) no mowing, no cultivating and left to give habitat. Cutting it would defeat the purpose of CRP. The greatest thing to ever happen to wildlife in the west midwest is the CRP program.

Not to mention that mowing would entail a huge amount of time that any decent farming operation does not have much extra of. They typically don't farm in the interest of my coyote hunting. You are talking about tens of thousands of acres....not some backlot behind the barn.
 
CRP is good, but it kinda messes up my plan. In Texas for deer hunting it's not unusual to cut strips in the brush for shooting lanes, so you still leave the majority of the brush, but you've got lanes to shoot down, plant them with clover, grass or other cover crops for the wildlife to eat.

When I see varmints at the deer lease, it's usually when they're crossing one of these lanes.
 
here in ky we hunt alot of hay fields we usually wait till tall hay is cut to hunt unless we are having a problem. if that is case i never take rifle only shot gun with dead coyote t shot. seems to penetrate tall fescue and blue grass better. but we are also shooting less than 30 yds. and alot are shot on what i call the hop these dogs will start hoping on back legs to see what they are coming into at about 40 50 yds u can sometimes time the hope after the 2nd or 3rd and nail them in the head as soon as they pop up. its kinda fun. but on the other hand i really dont like hunting this time of year only if someone has problem or around our quail that we r trying to restore to this area.
 
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Note: no cats were harmed in the making of this joke. PM nor sendit223 condone such actions in any way and expressly forbid anyone attempting such a brainless action (which may also be illegal except in Texas). Leave brainless actions to the idiots on the television show Jackass. Any likeness or resemblance in this joke to any persons real or imagined (or humorous for that matter) are purely coincidental and should be ignored.


sendit, this is too funny! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

guero,
great post...as usual.
 
I had more success with a 243 shooting the Sierra 85g BTHP in grass than any other caliber and bullet with a load of 37.0-38.5g of H 4895.

If you lie down and try and shoot though much grass at all, you might as well be throwing fire crackers at them.

A long Bi-pod that you can use while standing might be an option. As Jerry said, Sitting with a Bi pod is much better than being on the ground.

17's do not chop wood well at all.
 
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17's do not chop wood well at all.



Mine did a pretty good job of chopping in the pic i posted above, the 22-250 worked well also.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
 
juice1050, the problem with just wounding one is not that he may run off and die, its that he may live, and if he does then hes not going to be at the top of his game so to eat he goes to looking for something alittle easier to catch like lambs and pets. a wounded coyote that makes it is going to be a big problem for somebody.
 
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17's do not chop wood well at all.



Mine did a pretty good job of chopping in the pic i posted above, the 22-250 worked well also.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif



By "chopping wood" I mean shooting through brush, weeds, and tall grass.
 
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juice1050, the problem with just wounding one is not that he may run off and die, its that he may live, and if he does then hes not going to be at the top of his game so to eat he goes to looking for something alittle easier to catch like lambs and pets. a wounded coyote that makes it is going to be a big problem for somebody.



Yep, it's like the "Old Tiger" phenomenon going on in Asia. It seems that Tiger's that reach an age that they can no-longer hunt their usual prey effectively, they switch to an easier prey item to hunt and kill. This prey item is much slower and it's senses aren't very acute, this prey item goes by the name of "Man". Not saying that a wounded coyote is going to start killing people, but it will adapt in order to survive and that could mean putting "Fido" or "Bart the cat" on the menu.

Chupa
 
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Mine did a pretty good job of chopping in the pic i posted above, the 22-250 worked well also..


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By "chopping wood" I mean shooting through brush, weeds, and tall grass.





Ackleyman: I knew what you ment. Like i said in the pic i posted the 17 and the 22-250 did'nt have much of a problem shooting coyotes in the grass. We took 4 out of five coyotes out of the grass in the pic i posted. As you can see the grass is waste high in most spots.. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
 
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juice1050, the problem with just wounding one is not that he may run off and die, its that he may live, and if he does then hes not going to be at the top of his game so to eat he goes to looking for something alittle easier to catch like lambs and pets. a wounded coyote that makes it is going to be a big problem for somebody.



Yep, it's like the "Old Tiger" phenomenon going on in Asia. It seems that Tiger's that reach an age that they can no-longer hunt their usual prey effectively, they switch to an easier prey item to hunt and kill. This prey item is much slower and it's senses aren't very acute, this prey item goes by the name of "Man". Not saying that a wounded coyote is going to start killing people, but it will adapt in order to survive and that could mean putting "Fido" or "Bart the cat" on the menu.

Chupa


And this is said to be the same phenomenon as the bear who killed and consumed the "Grizzly Man" and his girlfriend in Alaska.
 
If I was calm and collected bark and fire. Man they are so predictable! I've been standing there plain as day a few feet away and barking still stopped him for a second man i shoulda shot him in the face but i had a 22lr so i hesitated.

However shooting into the grass where you think the body also is sounds fine to me. its probably what i would do during the excitement! just aslong as your positive it wasn't someones pet! and your 100 percent sure there are no people downrange!
 
I don't shoot at what I can't see clearly and I don't shoot where I can't confirm that there are no people around. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

$bob$
 


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