Coyote, Wolf, or Hybrid? Florida Mystery Canine

Crimson Raptor

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looks like a perfect half yote half wolf creature, never knew of the red wolf, wish they would have had a side by side comparison of the 2,....it would definitly be hard to lay off the trigger if it was charging to the call!
 
Coyote/Dog hybrid more than likely. Although given the number of Bunny Huggers we have hanging out down there in your neck of the woods, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they haven't planted them down there too.
 
Originally Posted By: Rocky1Coyote/Dog hybrid more than likely. Although given the number of Bunny Huggers we have hanging out down there in your neck of the woods, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they haven't planted them down there too.



My kids thought they saw some shepherd characteristics. Goodness knows we have our fair share of exotic everything down in SoFla!
 
there is Red wolves in FL they were a part of the recovery effort from NC they were intoduced in the national forrest in Franklin co. in 1990, and 1997 its possible that they could have moved further south. A man from where I live in VA accidently killed one a couple years back that was part of the packs in NC. He mistaked it for a coyote. They also have proven that they have bred with coyotes in the wild since being released. So it could be the real deal or a hybrid. I think it looks alot like a red wolf.
 
Could you possibly point me to documentation on that killa?

I want to say that's about the time coyotes started showing up down there, and FWC wants to suggest they were turned loose on game ranches over that way, by fox hunters. That's an interesting correlation.

Then if you read through this thread... http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1873612
Check out the info offered by the guys over by Tallahasse and further west. Lots of yotes, black yotes, hunting the forest.

From where you suggest they were planted to where that one was photographed is about 400 - 450 miles, dependent upon where they turned them loose, in Franklin County. However... there is a very good chance there were others transplanted further south in one of the MANY management areas down there too.
 
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Originally Posted By: kyflshootercrimson raptor what part of florida do you live in? I grew up in Vero Beach

In St Lucie county, shooter. Haved lived in Palm Beach and St Lucie counties since '98.
 
Revisiting this, now that I got to the other end of the country and got back to my computer...

If you look at the link that killa gave us here... http://library.fws.gov/Pubs4/endangered_red_wolves.pdf ...and, go down to the little map on the left side of page 5, you'll find there is a red wolf Species Survival facility located just not to far from where this critter was sighted.

And, if you go to the little "is it a wolf" survey associated with the article up there. You'll find the following info posted in comments there...

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Saw it myself at the old Ft. Pierce Central property last weekend. It was running acroos the field to the RR tracks and crossed over. My first impresiion was a wild dog or wolf/. seemed bigger than the actual max 50 lb coyote. My dog a pit bull mix is 64 lbs and not as big. In fact my dog saw the animal and ran over to check it out. When he got in its tracks he hesitated and stepped backwards. Normally he will hunt any creatures or chase dogs for play. Didn't want any part of this. Also two days earlier we found the remains of a wild hog being picked clean by about 30 buzzards on the same property.



Couple that with the fact that the crazy woman that was posting all the judge's personal info on her psycho-bunny-hugger website after his wolf hunt, lives in Sanford, only 130 or so miles from where the picture was taken, and probably 60 miles or so from the Species Survival Facility where there are supposedly Red Wolves held in captivity according to that little map. And... you know, killa might be onto something here!

They're not suggesting large numbers in the planted population in the panhandle. If I had to guess where one came from, I'd be more inclined to believe it escaped captivity, and dependent upon it's enclosure, or who might in charge of counting the critters, it might not be missed for awhile.
 
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Many, if not most, southeastern coyotes have red wolf and/or domestic dog DNA in the woodpile. I'd sure shoot that one.
 
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Lots of Color phase coyotes here in the east. DNA studies in my state ( MA ) have proved a mixed gene pool but, there was not enough wolf DNA to call them a hybrid wolf. The state has been removing tongues from coyotes for several years for this survey.
 
I killed a coyote last season that the SC DNR took and tested it, to see if it had red wolf DNA. It didn't, but I have killed coyotes of about every color here in SC. From blonde, reddish, dark brown, light brown, stripes down the back, and about a dozen black ones. I have pictures of most all of the different colored ones, if anyone is interested in them.
 
While I realize color phases may vary, and this one does look a great deal like certain color phases known to exist in the species. Having that color phase and being as large as it is, certainly makes it suspect. If the critter in the picture is as big as they suggest it is, it's a tad bit large for the average coyote.
 
I just killed a yote that weighed 57 lbs. I have heard from reputable sources that people have killed them up to 70 lbs.
I do agree that the head looks a tad on the wolf side,so who knows. I think somebody better "get to callin" down there in FLA.and solve this mystery!!!
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