Coyote's Den

WyoSongDog,

Do you know a family, by the name of [Atkinson]?
Mike, Kelly[Deceased],Danny, Wade or Wesley? If you do, please PM, me.

Thanks
 
Guys i hate to throw a wrench on this, but we were coon hunting in mid to late summer last year.(running the dogs with out firearms) We observed on three differant occations coyotes coming out of holes just like this. I guess to check out the coon dogs and what they were barken' about. I am talking about july and august. I have no idea about dening practices of coyotes, but i just figured they did it all year cause of this observation.

Later,
ISDB
 
A lot of people make that mistake. They see something once and assume that it is a constant. Your observation in July would be right in the middle of pup rearing season. Check that same den in September or October and all you'll find is cobwebs. Nothing beats a good education. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
If you can locate a den that is occupied just camp on it about 100 yards away and stay quiet,they will pop up from time to time just like giant gophers.
 
And that would be between the months of April and August, right? That is the birthing and pup rearing season. I have no (sporting) reason to kill coyotes during that time of year.
 
Where I hunt that time of year there is nothing sporting about it,we kill the coyotes to help the game birds,deer and antelope numbers.
 
There's where you and I have a difference of opinion. Nothing more. Your goal is to exterminate coyotes for the sake of more "desireable" animals. You hate coyotes and think they are worthless. My goal is to manage coyotes to a point where their numbers have a minimal impact on the food source population. I respect coyotes and think they are much more challenging to hunt than a deer or elk (when hunted on foot, the same as a deer or elk). I'll hammer the hell out them from Sept. to March. Then I leave them alone for 6 months. Why? To regenerate new targets of opportunity. I love doing this, and want to have new targets every year. I want the coyote to be around for a long, long time.
 
I hunt them on ranch land where they are a PREDATOR and I dont want any of my familys calves being the PREY.Familys out here have been shooting every yote they see(at least try to) for many generations and there are more coyoes around now than i can ever remember,I couldnt wipe them out if I had 365 days a year to hunt them and unlimited ammo.We mamage thier numbers also,we kill every one we can manage to.
 
So you have a different motivation than I do. ADC. I'm not a rancher and don't suffer economic losses due to coyotes. I completely understand your reasoning, and support it. With calving season starting you are going to be really busy. Especially if you only use your rifle for control.

You need to reduce the number of breeders now. And, you need to work the dens later in the season. Anytime you feel like you could use a couple of extra guns, just ask. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
We dont trap because it takes to much time to travel out there and check a line and we CANT poison because there are wolves that travel through so the only control is me,my Dad and an Uncle who probably take 12 yotes a year from a very large area t would be alot more if they stood still for more than 2 sec).Dont remind me..calving will start any day(o middle of the night) now.A friend of ours has 1300-1600 calves every year,it takes an amazing amount of work to calve that many heifers,you have to check em every hour all night.BTW there is a hoot colony that borders our place that has the highest density of yotes I have ever seen around here and you can hunt it anytime,just stop and sign a permision slip,the only problem is that mange is real bad in the area so pelts are worthless.
 
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When someones livehood is on the line it's no longer about making any money off the hides. All politics aside, if you really want help just ask. Post some contact info and you just might be surprised at the response you'll get from the membership here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

Daytime shooting at them from the truck/road will never be as productive as calling them in to a stand. That takes some know-how but a lot of us are good at it. Now night-hunting is a whole different ball game. There's a few here that know how to play that game too.
 
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Hardly anyone does any serious hunting for them out there,they will come into my mouth blown rabbit distress with very little caution,if they dont see a vehicle they have no fear.If I see them from my truck I just keep moving without slowing down till Im out of sight and then leave the truck and setup as soon as I get line of site to see them aproach.Last year i called in several doubles and a couple triples doing this,this year 8/10 yotes have mange so bad they look like hell hounds,not even woth picking them up.Im pretty sure many will die this winter but it has been very mild so who knows.
 
I'm just saying that we can do for your coyote problem what we did for a ranchers prairie dog problem. He asked for help and we responded.
 
Night hunting is actually my favorite way to hunt varmits but I ALWAYS end up talking to the gamewarden that gets called out,people around here see a spotlight and they automaticlly think its illegal or someone poaching deer.There are a couple places I can hunt on that are remote enough to keep people from overeacting but not many.
 
All my life I have passed hundreds if not thousands of vacant dens and like in my earlier post, this year is very different. Also in another post yesterday I shot a coyote that came out of the ground running. Maybe this is a way to adapt not only to our wetter than normal weather but because the coyote hunting seems like an alltime high. I have never seen this many coyote hunters.
 


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