? cut the distance to hwling coyotes?

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I love to howl. Either by itself or in conjunction with distress. Does anyone hear go and cut the distance to the coyotes doing the howling? If you set up and say, give a couple lonesome howls and get a responce from group that's 1/2 mile away. Do you pack it up and get alot closer if terrain permits? I live in N.W. Montana and also call elk. That is what I do with them, but they will very seldom come a half mile to a call.If it is the coyotes nature to come check you out should I go to him and may be challenge? I have not done this yet but I'm playing with the idea. I've always sat and did my best to get them all the way in. Any body do this?? thanks k-2
 
I have but under different cicumstances. They just would commit. Here in Michigan we have a little more cover available. Also it was at night. They kept howling closer and closer then farther and farther so we moved a little called and kept doing this till when they came our way they were close enough.
 
i did once with an Ecaller, and i wasnt howling, but calling with a rabbit in distress. it was about the third time i had ever called coyotes, so i didnt knew better. i was night calling, and got some responses. but between me and them there was a ranch, and the ranches house was eaxtly between us. so i packed everything in the truck, and went right to where i heard them. i parked and began calling. this time i got no vocal response, but suddenly i could hear the footsteps running towards me. when i turned on the spotlight (i would turn it on until i heard something, or when i felt it was time) the coyote was already running away from me.

so, at least that time, it worked for me. i think part of why it worked is because there arent many callers in here i believe, so the coyotes arent used to being called. also, there are soem ranches, so coyotes might be used to truck sounds and people.
 
I have great success in moving my set up towards the howls I hear. In AZ the terrain i hunt is pretty thick at times and i was not noticeable to them. I went towards the howls fired up the rabbit and in less than 30 seconds had a triple breathing down my neck. It works if you can be as stealthy as possible otherwise throw some different calls at them.
 
k-2--I'm not sure what your terrain is like where you are howling, but even if you have dense trees and brush or bare hills, etc. like out here in eastern Montana and NW North DaColder, I would be inclined to wait for them to come to me. A half mile is not very far away and coyotes can cover that distance in a very short time. They could already be coming your way and by getting up and moving, you might be scaring them away. If I get answering howls, I usually stay on that stand for a bare minimum of 30 minutes and I'll most likely stay on that stand for 45 minutes or more. I have had many coyotes come in to howling after 35 or 40 minutes.
 
k-2
The Coyote Doctors would tend to agree with Silver. A coyote can get to you from a half mile in a surprisingly short time. If we get an answer from what we consider a half mile (and judging distance is more art than science)we usually expect things to happen without moving. However, if the answer comes from three times that distance we will move closer and set up another stand. Identify the area you think they are howling from, identify where you want to call from, and then be as stealthy as possible getting there and setting up. Don't set up right on top of them, you increase the odds of getting busted. Also, be prepared for them to have moved closer to you while you are moving, don't run into them on the way in. Hope this helps.
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I agree let them come to you half mile is only about 700 yds. they can cover that in about a half second when you shoot and miss. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Sometimes it matters what their response is though. Waiting out the set is good advice. I have blown a few great sets by getting up even 1 minute to early.
 
O.K. Sit it out. That's pretty much what I'm hearing, If 11/2 mile or so. Silver fox, My country in timbered and logged. When you say wait at least 30-45 mins. Are you calling during the last half of that or waiting quietly? It sounds like even though they respond to my howling, I shouldn't be afraid to switch sounds through out the whole process. I'll have a fx3 in about 1 more week so sounds shouldn't be a problem. Or should I stick with the howling every once in a while? Something tells me you're going to say "sometimes this and sometimes that".
 
k-2--my method is to continue calling, but mix in some prey distress sounds. What I'm trying to do is make those coyotes think there really is a coyote intruder in their territory and that intruder has caught a rabbit, bird (whatever prey sound you use). I even mix in some coyote pup or wounded coyote distress sounds along with the howling to try to make it sound like an adult coyote might be defending the kill against a juvenile or subordinate coyote.

Don't overdo the calling. Give yourself lots of time to slowly look the countryside over very carefully. This would be especially important for you since you are in country that might have pretty dense vegetation. Out here on the prairie, especially with snow on the ground, it is pretty easy to spot incoming coyotes, but in your country I suspect they are hard to see unless you see them on a logging road or clear cut area.

So, YES Quote:
"sometimes this and sometimes that."

I'd suggest keeping the howling going, but maybe once every 5 to 8 minutes or so. If I get what sounds like a male coyote giving me a challenge howl, I give it right back to him. If the howling goes silent, the pack may be on the way and you will want to just keep the distress sounds going more regularly. You'll find that sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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