2muchgun is falling for the old Randy Wakeman scare tactics. Wakeman used to shoot and review CVA's until he got on with Savage and started shooting their smokeless muzzleloader. Henry Balls son in law was injured by a recall CVA MLer and so Wakeman took it to the extreme by starting these scare tactic websites and then having his ambulance chasing lawyer friend " which Wakeman advertises for" post pictures and extremely long lawsuit cases where after you read for 2 hours, find out the gun was a recall gun or was improperly loaded with smokeless powder or simply, the person did not know how to clean the rifle properly between each shot and left a space between the powder and bullet.
If you do a search on the names Randy Wakeman and Toby Bridges you will see a connection of flat out fraud, lies and total BS by these 2 writers.
Bridges once shot savage muzzleloaders until his blew up, and in which case, Wakeman " part time savage employee" jumps on his back and does write ups claiming Bridges blew his up on purpose.
Now you got Wakeman writing these horror stories about CVA. Well... Lets see... He used to shoot CVA and review them, still has reviews on his website... YET he claims they are unsafe to shoot? Lets see.... unsafe....he reviews the guns... he shoots the guns... he posts the reviews of the CVA guns he shot..... Yet he claims they are unsafe? I think we all can smell the stink pile on this one.
If you look at both Bridges and Wakemans websites now they are now Attacking/Counter attacking each other about Knight Rifles and of course the savage ML's.
What you got is two old guys with nothing better to do, who both have paper trails behind them and go where the money pays. Once a company dumps them, they start telling you they are unsafe, no good, quality has slipped, etc.
To put it easy, Both of those two writers have lost a LOT of credit as they tarnished their own reputations.
If you want to see how fragile muzzleloaders can be when improperly loaded, check these out! These are fully custom muzzleloaders that were blown apart by improper loading.
http://gandersmuzzleloadingblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/rush-it-this-could-happen-to-you.html#comments
Originally Posted By: 2muchgunOriginally Posted By: biggen0_8 There is no doubt that CVA did have an issue back several years ago, but since BPI purchased them, they have made some real improvements.
An issue? Yeah, I'd say so.
Several years ago? Yep, and before that, and after that.
CVA has consistently turned out junk for a very long time. You can call all the "negative press" a "slur campaign" if you want, but all these lawsuits/pictures are very real. And check out the dates......
http://cvaguncases.com/Case___Information_Page.html
Some nice CVA pics too. I particularly like the x-ray of the guy with the breech plug lodged in his skull. Breech plugs/chambers with next to no threads on them. That is some FINE QC right there.
It's hard to pick a favorite, given there are SO MANY to choose from, but here are a couple of mine:
Notice that these rifles are all different models? I know it's kind of hard to tell, given there isn't much left of them. I'd say that's pretty consistent with the term "crap".
This guy would too:
I find it VERY strange that anyone would purchase a rifle from a company with such a horrific track record and tons of personal injury lawsuits filed against them. But I guess I'm weird that way.......