Cz 527 Varmint .17 Hornet

Bad Dawg

Banned From Church
Hi all! Purchased a Cz 527 Varmint .17 Hornet and had it about a month. Put about 100 rounds down it so far and have been cleaning after roughly 25 rounds. My question is how often do you guys recommend cleaning this rifle? Also, what is your specific cleaning technique? I'll be using this rifle for the upcoming coyote/fox/bobcat season and doing some recreational shooting with it, as well? Thanks in advance for the replies!

** cleaning tools I have purchased for this rifle are a Possum Hollow bore guide, a one piece rod, a bore snake, copper brushes, brass patch holders and brass patch jags.
 
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I have all but gotten away from bronze brushes.

I clean all my rifles the following way:

3 patches of kroil, wait an hour, run a nylon brush a few times and then patches to clean up.

Spray in Wipeout, let it sit for 4-24 hours depending on barrel quality, patch it out.

I have one rifle with a terrible barrel that I inherited. I skip the wipeout and clean it once in a blue moon with JB bore paste.

I know everyone believes in something different, but when I see guys going to town on their barrel with bronze brushes I just can't understand. I know it worked for many years, but why take the chance now that there are better methods, in my opinion.
 
I use a very similar approach as CZ527. Long gone are the days I
push a jag through the barrel after getting them stuck in two
different barrels. Nor do I any longer use brass brushes. Nylon
brushes usually give enough, depending on manufacturer brand, to
allow for a patch to be used with them.

Overnight soak with Wipeout, foam or liquid, usually does the
trick.
 
A GOOD... one piece rod, Bore guide, the proper size Jag and Patch's and LOSE THE REST OF THE JUNK..

Wipeout Patch-Out till clean (normally 2 or 3 for me) then a patch with Kroil and a couple dry patch's.. If your cleaning every 25 rounds or so you aint getting much out of it.... If your just using it for what you said I would clean it now and be done with it till next spring
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If ya ever decide to get rid of the hornet give me a jingle.
 
I've never been picky as long as the ends are twisted loops and not whacked off with a pair of fencing pliers. I usually just buy from the cabelas outpost here.
 
After seeing what this rifle can do, I think I'd rather give up both of my 'you know what' instead, considering the love life isn't going that great at the moment anyway!
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Originally Posted By: Bad DawgAfter seeing what this rifle can do, I think I'd rather give up both of my 'you know what' instead, considering the love life isn't going that great at the moment anyway!
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LOL.... Just remember in case the Love life gets better
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Thats a sweet little rifle for certain niches..
 
Graf & Sons in Mexico, MO usually has a good supply of cleaning items for the smaller calibers and their prices are generally in line with most retailers, maybe a little better...I'd lose the bore snake from your list...They are fine for an occasional use, but don't depend on them to really clean a bore...

Since I got my bore scope, I've discovered that most of my barrels will pick up powder debris immediately after the chamber and right before the muzzle....Copper usually starts building about mid bore...I have no problem using brass brushes on stubborn situations (brass is not really going to hurt a steel barrel), but prefer a patch saturated with either OSSO bore cleaner (very mild), or JB Bore Paste (slightly more aggressive), just to cut down one number of strokes necessary with a brush, (the chemicals in the paste seem to break down the powder debris slightly faster), followed by a patch saturated with Kroil and then wiped dry...Be sure to wipe down your cleaning rod between each pass so that you are not getting false readings, especially with copper..

I generally use Butch's Bore Shine for general cleaning, followed with a good corrosion inhibitor, such as Rejex CorrosionX..Especially if the rifle is going into storage for several months, or longer..I've always had good results with the foaming type bore cleaners for those times when it's a daily type use/cleaning and the barrel can be left to soak overnight...
 
Originally Posted By: OldTurtleGraf & Sons in Mexico, MO usually has a good supply of cleaning items for the smaller calibers and their prices are generally in line with most retailers, maybe a little better...I'd lose the bore snake from your list...They are fine for an occasional use, but don't depend on them to really clean a bore...

Since I got my bore scope, I've discovered that most of my barrels will pick up powder debris immediately after the chamber and right before the muzzle....Copper usually starts building about mid bore...I have no problem using brass brushes on stubborn situations (brass is not really going to hurt a steel barrel), but prefer a patch saturated with either OSSO bore cleaner (very mild), or JB Bore Paste (slightly more aggressive), just to cut down one number of strokes necessary with a brush, (the chemicals in the paste seem to break down the powder debris slightly faster), followed by a patch saturated with Kroil and then wiped dry...Be sure to wipe down your cleaning rod between each pass so that you are not getting false readings, especially with copper..

I generally use Butch's Bore Shine for general cleaning, followed with a good corrosion inhibitor, such as Rejex CorrosionX..Especially if the rifle is going into storage for several months, or longer..I've always had good results with the foaming type bore cleaners for those times when it's a daily type use/cleaning and the barrel can be left to soak overnight...


Thanks Oldturtle. I appreciate the response! I'll check out that supplier!
 
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/209324...40-thread-alloy

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2049139550/iosso-eliminator-rifle-bore-brush-nylon

Powder - Bore Tech C4 or KG-1 with Iosso brush
Copper - Bore Tech Cu+2 or KG-12 When using these cleaners use a brush that has no brass so you don't get a false positive. If you are experienced at cleaning this is not an issue. Copper at muzzle will tell you when the bore is clean.

100% cotton patches. Very important for absorbing these cleaners. I like Sinclair patches. Other type patches the cleaner will just roll off of patch.

Clean powder first then copper.

Once the barrel is burnished only minimal brushing will be needed for cleaning and most cleaning can be done with just patches.
 
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Originally Posted By: coyotezapperhttps://www.midwayusa.com/product/209324...40-thread-alloy

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2049139550/iosso-eliminator-rifle-bore-brush-nylon

Powder - Bore Tech C4 or KG-1 with Iosso brush
Copper - Bore Tech Cu+2 or KG-12 When using these cleaners use a brush that has no brass so you don't get a false positive. If you are experienced at cleaning this is not an issue. Copper at muzzle will tell you when the bore is clean.

100% cotton patches. Very important for absorbing these cleaners. I like Sinclair patches. Other type patches the cleaner will just roll off of patch.

Clean powder first then copper.

Once the barrel is burnished only minimal brushing will be needed for cleaning and most cleaning can be done with just patches.


Thanks for the links and the instructions CoyoteZapper! I'll be ordering those for sure!
 
Originally Posted By: Bad DawgOriginally Posted By: coyotezapperhttps://www.midwayusa.com/product/209324...40-thread-alloy

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2049139550/iosso-eliminator-rifle-bore-brush-nylon

Powder - Bore Tech C4 or KG-1 with Iosso brush
Copper - Bore Tech Cu+2 or KG-12 When using these cleaners use a brush that has no brass so you don't get a false positive. If you are experienced at cleaning this is not an issue. Copper at muzzle will tell you when the bore is clean.

100% cotton patches. Very important for absorbing these cleaners. I like Sinclair patches. Other type patches the cleaner will just roll off of patch.

Clean powder first then copper.

Once the barrel is burnished only minimal brushing will be needed for cleaning and most cleaning can be done with just patches.


Thanks for the links and the instructions CoyoteZapper! I'll be ordering those for sure!

Forgot to mention all of these solvents / cleaners are bore friendly. And after cleaning I run 2 patches of hBN suspended in alcohol followed by 1 dry patch if I am going to go back out and shoot. If I am going to store the rifle I will run a couple of patches of EWL or some other type of oil to protect bore.
 
Just curious as to what the issue is with brass brushes? I have always used them but also use patches after using the brush. I don't use the brush every time I clean depending on how much I have shot the rifle though. A lot of times just patches is all I need.
 
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