Does any one find a diesel to noisy to take to the field when going to call coyotes? Probably a hard question to answer but would like some input. One person I know said he thinks they pay less attention to his diesel than the gas pickup as they are more use to that sound from all the farm equipment. I hunt in eastern Iowa.
Diesel or gas truck ?
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BillyTheKidd
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Not a hard question to answer. It don't matter, unless you leave your engine running ( diesel or gas ) when your making a stand.
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Helipilotm
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I have always had a diesel truck I havent found that it effects my hunting at all. Where you are hunting around farmland they might be use to it but who knows. Next time your out ask a coyote what he thinks /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
Handirifle
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One of my hunting buddies has a Dodge diesel and every year he has deer walk out in front of his truck, stop and look at him, usually at a few yards. Every year!
We're starting to think there's something about the rattle that soothes them.
Get the truck YOU want and don't worry bout the critters.
We're starting to think there's something about the rattle that soothes them.
Get the truck YOU want and don't worry bout the critters.
I'm not convinced that a loud vehicle won't hurt your success. Actually, I believe just the opposite.
It's one of those things that of course nobody can really know for sure, and I certainly can't prove. And I also think like just about everything else to do with coyotes, that it is different from one place to another, from one time to another, even from one coyote to another.
But... My own experience, has me believing that for a lot of the places I hunt, and the way I like to hunt them, a loud truck is definitely going to hurt your chances.
My calling partner used to drive an older Powerstroke at work. It was a loud SOB of a rough riding stinky pickup. But his boss at the time really likes our videos, and is into all kinds of hunting, and he would not only let us take that Powerstroke hunting any time we wanted, but he would let us use the company fuel card to boot (he was spending about $300,000 a month on fuel and just didn't care if we added a couple bucks to it). A company truck and free gas to go hunting, wooo-hooo! Well, to shorten up the story, our success went way down while using that truck. We eventually became so convinced that the loud SOB was hurting our success, that we chose to use our own trucks and pay for our own gas to go coyote hunting. Our success went way up again when we quit using it.
Like I said, I'm sure it's different in other places. But I think that in our situation, the only thing the coyotes are used to about vehicles driving by, is getting shot at from them. I think they tend to associate vehicles with danger (and very rightly so - the ones that don't, aren't going to live long...). And we like to call close to the truck. Usually don't walk more than a couple hundred yards. So I think it only makes sense that if the truck is so loud that every coyote within calling distance heard it pull up, and then we start calling a couple minutes later from only a couple hundred yards away, that some coyotes are not going to come to the call because of the truck they just heard.
Who knows, maybe we were and still are just wrong about it. But, both my partner and I are absolutely convinced that a loud truck is bad news for our style of hunting in the places we mostly go.
Oh, but the newer diesels are NOT too loud! My '04.5 CTD is quieter than a lot of gas motors I've owned, and it has been a great calling rig (when it ain't stuck...). I'm shopping for a new one right now, and both the new Powerstroke and new CTD are even quieter than my '04.5 is. I'm still undecided which one to go with. Duramax is super nice and quiet too, but I'm way too hard on pickups to go with an IFS rig.
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It's one of those things that of course nobody can really know for sure, and I certainly can't prove. And I also think like just about everything else to do with coyotes, that it is different from one place to another, from one time to another, even from one coyote to another.
But... My own experience, has me believing that for a lot of the places I hunt, and the way I like to hunt them, a loud truck is definitely going to hurt your chances.
My calling partner used to drive an older Powerstroke at work. It was a loud SOB of a rough riding stinky pickup. But his boss at the time really likes our videos, and is into all kinds of hunting, and he would not only let us take that Powerstroke hunting any time we wanted, but he would let us use the company fuel card to boot (he was spending about $300,000 a month on fuel and just didn't care if we added a couple bucks to it). A company truck and free gas to go hunting, wooo-hooo! Well, to shorten up the story, our success went way down while using that truck. We eventually became so convinced that the loud SOB was hurting our success, that we chose to use our own trucks and pay for our own gas to go coyote hunting. Our success went way up again when we quit using it.
Like I said, I'm sure it's different in other places. But I think that in our situation, the only thing the coyotes are used to about vehicles driving by, is getting shot at from them. I think they tend to associate vehicles with danger (and very rightly so - the ones that don't, aren't going to live long...). And we like to call close to the truck. Usually don't walk more than a couple hundred yards. So I think it only makes sense that if the truck is so loud that every coyote within calling distance heard it pull up, and then we start calling a couple minutes later from only a couple hundred yards away, that some coyotes are not going to come to the call because of the truck they just heard.
Who knows, maybe we were and still are just wrong about it. But, both my partner and I are absolutely convinced that a loud truck is bad news for our style of hunting in the places we mostly go.
Oh, but the newer diesels are NOT too loud! My '04.5 CTD is quieter than a lot of gas motors I've owned, and it has been a great calling rig (when it ain't stuck...). I'm shopping for a new one right now, and both the new Powerstroke and new CTD are even quieter than my '04.5 is. I'm still undecided which one to go with. Duramax is super nice and quiet too, but I'm way too hard on pickups to go with an IFS rig.
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Bozdogkiller
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I have a 2002 dodge cummins and would rather stay home then take that noisy POS coyote hunting
I will stick to my 83 s 15 for coyotes and the Grizzly
I will stick to my 83 s 15 for coyotes and the Grizzly
johnmeador609
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I think allot depends on the truck. Powerstrokes up to the new 6.4 are loud rough idling SOB's. The CTD up to the 03 common rail motors are loud rough idling SOBS. But the newer generation of CTD PowerStroke's and Duramaxs ( durmax never have been loud) wont be hardly any difference in noise. But unless you NEED a diesel there is really no advantage to owning one anymore.
Ackman
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The newer diesels aren't all noisy. One friend has an '06 Ford 6.0 and it's a clattery noisy thing. But my neighbor has an '06 Dodge and it's so quiet you can barely tell it's a diesel. That '94 gas truck sitting out there has a cat-back and is much louder than the modified '04 Duramax I'm driving now.
Get the diesel. They have power like you wouldn't believe and are faster than most cars on the road. On long mountain grades nothing will keep up except a very fast car, or another diesel. After driving one you'll never want another gas engined truck.
Get the diesel. They have power like you wouldn't believe and are faster than most cars on the road. On long mountain grades nothing will keep up except a very fast car, or another diesel. After driving one you'll never want another gas engined truck.
ArrowStar
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My Duramax is WAY quieter that my 05 Powerstroke was. The way I hunt I dont think that truck noise is an issue as we always walk in from the road.
I do know that my wife appreciates the quietness of the Duramax when I start it up about 5:30 in the mornings and she is trying to sleep. The old Powerstroke always woke her up. That's the main reason I traded it in on the Duramax.
I do know that my wife appreciates the quietness of the Duramax when I start it up about 5:30 in the mornings and she is trying to sleep. The old Powerstroke always woke her up. That's the main reason I traded it in on the Duramax.
SureShot_77
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Buy the truck that fits your budget and is enough to cover everything you normally do with a truck and maybe a little extra just in case.
You don't need a diesel unless you tow and pull things a lot...more than every once in awhile. And I am not sure where you live, but diesel here is more expensive than gas.
Unless your one of those guys who can buy one and cost doesn't matter...check out all your options.
noise on the other hand is 50/50. Same reason deer coming running to you in the woods when your running a chain saw. It happens all the time...so maybe we should make our trucks and 4 wheelers sound like chainsaws?
You don't need a diesel unless you tow and pull things a lot...more than every once in awhile. And I am not sure where you live, but diesel here is more expensive than gas.
Unless your one of those guys who can buy one and cost doesn't matter...check out all your options.
noise on the other hand is 50/50. Same reason deer coming running to you in the woods when your running a chain saw. It happens all the time...so maybe we should make our trucks and 4 wheelers sound like chainsaws?
I have to walk a lot farther when calling coyotes if I take my PSD it is noisy. I sit in front of or behind big noisy diesel motors every day, so when I shut down and head home my Powerstroke sounds nice and quiet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
I'm looking for a toyota to use for a beat around hunting rig. It's quiet and gets around about 10 times better than the big crewcab does. On road trips or when you need to tow the diesel is hard to beat, but like someone else said most people don't NEED one. Including me, I just like it.
I guess it depends on the varmint too, I've been calling grey fox right to the pick-up on a regular basis this winter. But have never had a coyote or cat show up to the rig.
I'm looking for a toyota to use for a beat around hunting rig. It's quiet and gets around about 10 times better than the big crewcab does. On road trips or when you need to tow the diesel is hard to beat, but like someone else said most people don't NEED one. Including me, I just like it.
I guess it depends on the varmint too, I've been calling grey fox right to the pick-up on a regular basis this winter. But have never had a coyote or cat show up to the rig.
Mason
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Well ya know...
If you guys weren't so "shoot first and ask questions later" you might be able to get these questions answered by a coyote, but nooooooooo you guys just can't wait that long. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif A dead coyote shares no secrets. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
If you guys weren't so "shoot first and ask questions later" you might be able to get these questions answered by a coyote, but nooooooooo you guys just can't wait that long. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif A dead coyote shares no secrets. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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steve garrett
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I think a quiet gas rig has a definite advantage, last year we used my '06 dodge diesel we had a good calling season, this year we used my partners new '07 toyota tacoma most of the time, which is very very quiet, you can hear the tires rolling over the small rocks. It seemed like we got closer to and saw more coyotes much closer to the truck, we even called in several coyotes to the truck with the yotes looking right at the truck. that little truck is about as good as you can get for a calling rig, it gets good mileage and burns the cheaper regular gas.
DAA I say keep the truck you got, the new trucks get about 20% less fuel mileage, its taken a smarty (chip) to get the mileage where it should be in my '06 the new trucks are even worse. fords don't think about it do some research on the 6.0 motor, the 6.4 aint much better.
DAA I say keep the truck you got, the new trucks get about 20% less fuel mileage, its taken a smarty (chip) to get the mileage where it should be in my '06 the new trucks are even worse. fords don't think about it do some research on the 6.0 motor, the 6.4 aint much better.
bigswedegml
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I hunt a farm where there is always diesel trucks driving around and on one setup we had a coyote hanging up just inside the tree line of a tree farm we call them out of.
Neither one of us had a shot so we were waiting for it to move to one side or the other, but suddenly it went on high alert. We couldn't figure out what startled it, but it took off into the trees in the blink of an eye. A diesel truck came driving up about ten seconds later. We had no clue the truck was coming until it came over the hill.
I realized how good a coyote can hear that day. Also, just because they are used to trucks, doesn't mean they want to hang around and watch you drive by within gun range.
It was aggravating, but that is part of hunting. No matter how quiet your vehicle is, if they are within a few hundred yards, they are going to hear you. So go with whichever one you feel is right for you.
Neither one of us had a shot so we were waiting for it to move to one side or the other, but suddenly it went on high alert. We couldn't figure out what startled it, but it took off into the trees in the blink of an eye. A diesel truck came driving up about ten seconds later. We had no clue the truck was coming until it came over the hill.
I realized how good a coyote can hear that day. Also, just because they are used to trucks, doesn't mean they want to hang around and watch you drive by within gun range.
It was aggravating, but that is part of hunting. No matter how quiet your vehicle is, if they are within a few hundred yards, they are going to hear you. So go with whichever one you feel is right for you.
AceHandler
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I lived in a place right up the road from the UPS distrubution. 20 - 30 UPS trucks drove by Every Day.. My dog Hated one One.. the guy that stopped at the house. He could pick that truck out a 1/2 mile away and start raising hell, Ignoring all the other trucks. Think about it......
BillyTheKidd
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If you go by example, then listen to this one. Two guys using a diesel truck killed more than 40 coyotes in less than a weekend of hunting from there truck.
Callers that think they have to walk a 1/2 mile away from there truck to call predators are walking to far for nothing. Those animals already know you are there and in most cases well respond anyways....Good example AceHandler.
Callers that think they have to walk a 1/2 mile away from there truck to call predators are walking to far for nothing. Those animals already know you are there and in most cases well respond anyways....Good example AceHandler.
Curt Barrett
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In some areas of the country I'm sure vehicle noise may not have an adverse effect on calling success. Where I hunt the coyotes must be of a more "sensitive" nature. I have seen a noticeable difference in coyotes reaction to different vehicle noise.
For example, one year I used a ATV for alot of my hunting on ground that I previously used my quiet little Toyota truck. This is wide open terrain where you can see for miles. When using my truck I'd kick a coyote out now and then but it was usually one in close proximity. However when I used my ATV I would see coyotes (and more of them) making an exit from much farther away. It was obvious to me the increased volume of the vehicle I was using was causing more alarm. Most places around here it is rare to call a coyote that knows you are there or has seen you. Most coyotes here are as nervous as a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. lol! You don't have to walk for miles but a little effort at stealth does pay off.
I'd like to experience the calling I hear about in the southwest areas where you exit the truck, walk 50 yds, and start calling. I really wish we had that here. With my thrashed knees that would be sweet. I'm jealous. lol! Unfortunately we have to resort to crazy tactics like parking the truck behind a hill, approaching with the wind in our favor....etc. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Don't get me wrong. Even around here there are spots where the coyotes are not as nervous and you can get away with alot more but my point is I believe in most parts of the country, more often than not a little effort at minimizing noise is going to be an asset.
Good hunting
For example, one year I used a ATV for alot of my hunting on ground that I previously used my quiet little Toyota truck. This is wide open terrain where you can see for miles. When using my truck I'd kick a coyote out now and then but it was usually one in close proximity. However when I used my ATV I would see coyotes (and more of them) making an exit from much farther away. It was obvious to me the increased volume of the vehicle I was using was causing more alarm. Most places around here it is rare to call a coyote that knows you are there or has seen you. Most coyotes here are as nervous as a long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. lol! You don't have to walk for miles but a little effort at stealth does pay off.
I'd like to experience the calling I hear about in the southwest areas where you exit the truck, walk 50 yds, and start calling. I really wish we had that here. With my thrashed knees that would be sweet. I'm jealous. lol! Unfortunately we have to resort to crazy tactics like parking the truck behind a hill, approaching with the wind in our favor....etc. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Don't get me wrong. Even around here there are spots where the coyotes are not as nervous and you can get away with alot more but my point is I believe in most parts of the country, more often than not a little effort at minimizing noise is going to be an asset.
Good hunting