dispatching coyotes in neighborhood

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fishtaco

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our neighborhood has a problem with coyotes stealing peoples pets, mine included. We have had two cats taken (I couldn't really care but my wife loved them) Also my neighbors little shitzu was taken right in from of her as she beat the coyote with a stick. The yotes have gotten pretty brazen. They have surprised me as they will jump up onto a 6' tall block wall and scale the top of them like cats. Ive never seen anything like it.
anyway Ive talked to my neighbors and they are all in agreement that they would be fine with me dispatching these guys.
Im wondering if just a 22LR would be sufficient for taking one down that gets into the backyard thats only 10 yards distance max. Im thinking the 22LR with a soft lead bullet as it shouldn't over penetrate and is fairly quite.
Or the other option is that we have a very large open desert field next to our neighborhood that I could call them and then use something like a suppressed 223 as there are houses within the "call the cops cause I heard a gunshot" distance. But these houses are definitely far enough where no bullet would ever hit them.
My other question is who would I contact if I wanted to sell some pelts as these coyotes all look fat and healthy
 
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The AZ Game and Fish Commission has designated a "Limited Weapon Shotgun Shooting Shot Season" for taking coyotes within city limits of Phoenix and other metro GMU's. See page 83 of the 2016-2017 hunting regulations.

R12-4-313 C13: Limited Weapon Shotgun Shooting Shot Seasons includes using a crossbow, pneumatic weapons (minimum required for coyotes is 22 caliber), shotguns, archery, and box traps.
 
I hunt near neighborhoods often. If you get out at sunrise, pop a shot or two while everyone's in bed still. Cops will never b called. I'd take a shotgun , and go the field and feed them some lead. If you cAn setup in a way to shoot away from houses, .223 would be a good choice. Make your shots , and go home .
 
I had just purchased a Savage 17wsm when a coyote decided to make my neighbors cat a snack. I was watching TV and heard a big commotion outside. I grab the gun and went outside to see what was going on. I peeped over the fence and saw the coyote with his meals. I put round in his head at 30 yards and that was that. I felt bad telling my neighbor about her pet but she was happy I took the yote out. I live dead smack in the middle of housing development and have killed many a coon or possum with a .22 Seems possums love to live under my deck and have babies.
 
Originally Posted By: Grainraiser I put round in his head at 30 yards and that was that.

Hilarious. Great timing, right when the coyote forgot he was in Texas.

fishtaco, A 22lr would be just the ticket for a 10yd and under backyard surprise, as well. I would think subsonic should be fine at that range, too.
 
We have them everywhere here in the Vegas neighborhoods. Bow! I wouldn't be going with any rifle, even with it being suppressed. That's one nice FELONY! Shooting with-in city limits. But that's just my .02. Regards, Drop
 
The subsonic .22 will certainly give it something to remember and may die from the wound eventually but unless you get lucky it probably won't kill it. I use the cci subsonic suppressed to eliminate rock chucks in areas where I can't use my .17hmr or .223 and the sub .22 requires a headshot to kill a Rockchuck so a coyote will probably survive. I also use a Benjamin marauder pcp air rifle and it's about the same up to 50' or so and then the .22 is a lot better.
 
Some ugly regrettable things have happened with firearms in populated areas.
At most I would opt for the airgun.
I'm willing to bet that after you feel accomplished they will be back.
 
We got a Rapid Air Weapons HM1000x .30 caliber for exactly that reason, A coyote attacked one of our 4-month old basset puppies. The vet bill was nearly $1,000!

This air rifle is no louder than a pneumatic nail gun and will put a whole magazine (9) in a quarter-sized group at 80 yards. When not looking for coyotes, it's a tremendous amount of fun to shoot without annoying the neighbors. There are other PCP (pre-charged pneumatic) rifles also capable of dispatching a coyote. General rule is one foot-pound of energy for each pound the prey weighs. My RAW .30 delivers about 80 FPE, more than enough for a 50-55lb dog. And totally legal! At about ten cents per match-grade pellet, even plinking is affordable. Be prepared for huge price ranges. Mine cost more than my .308 Remington 700 but the RAW is a superb air rifle, suited for competition. Phoenix happens to be a big hub for air rifles too. PM me if you need more info.
 
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Being from your neck of the woods I too am aware of the problem. However if I were you I would think this through carefully. I agree with Dropadog, many towns in this area have installed gunshot locators that are extremely accurate in detecting and pinpointing gunshots after the death of a young lady a few years ago on July 4th. Neighbors might not be so quick to cya if they come knockin. A felony would cause you to lose your right to own any firearm. However Fursniper brought up an excellent point regarding new regs. Check them out, make certain you're in a legal area, I'm not. IMO jeopardizing my future ain't worth the risk.
 
Originally Posted By: DropadoglvWe have them everywhere here in the Vegas neighborhoods. Bow! I wouldn't be going with any rifle, even with it being suppressed. That's one nice FELONY! Shooting with-in city limits. But that's just my .02. Regards, Drop

in most places releasing an arrow is the same as firing a bullet.
 
Originally Posted By: 6724Originally Posted By: DropadoglvWe have them everywhere here in the Vegas neighborhoods. Bow! I wouldn't be going with any rifle, even with it being suppressed. That's one nice FELONY! Shooting with-in city limits. But that's just my .02. Regards, Drop

in most places releasing an arrow is the same as firing a bullet.

definitely need to consider your local laws, especially since the neighbor's now know that you're the one planning to do the shooting.


if you're gonna risk skirting the law - even for something as common sense as this situation may be - i've never understood those who go around telling everyone about it. whatever happened to Shoot, Shovel & Shut up.


as mentioned - the idea of trapping sounds like a lot safer idea (legally speaking) to getting rid of your problem. although again in an effort to make sure you're not breaking any firearms discharge laws that may effect you, it might be better served to look at using something like snares instead of leg hold traps that will likely require manually dispatching after the animal is trapped.
 
Just a reminder that an air rifle is not legally considered a firearm by the BATFE. Local ordinances should be researched and factor in to whatever way anyone wishes to address a predator issue. Also, while a law or ordinance may be on the books, the local law enforcement may choose to turn a blind eye in cases such as this. The unofficial response we got from our local LE was (regarding coyotes) "as long as you are acting safely and responsibly, and you don't anger your neighbors, we don't care." Coyotes are a chronic problem and are frequently responsible for attacks on pets. Worse yet, their familiarity with humans has made them less fearful and, in fact, coyotes can and will attack adults and children.
 
The city and county governments in AZ cannot enact any law, rule, or ordinance that is more restrictive than state law for taking wildlife (ARS 13-3108E). The AZ Game and Fish Commission has hunting seasons currently in place for metro Game Management Units for taking predators and furbearers.

The type of weapons that are allowed for hunting within the city limits are designated in Commission Rule R12-4-313 (C13) which I described earlier. Discharging 22 rimfire and centerfire handgun/rifle ammo is NOT allowed for hunting in any of the metro Game Management Units.

A shotgun is a firearm so it cannot be discharged within 1/4 mile of buildings. However, pneumatic guns, archery equipment, and crossbows are not firearms so the 1/4 mile discharge restriction does not apply to them.

You are good to go to remove the coyote within the city limits by following the hunting season for the game management unit you are in.
 
Many state wildlife agencies such as those in CA, UT, NM, and NV have delegated controlling coyote numbers to their county governments. One problem with that is city and county governments are more likely to close urban areas to hunting. The situation in AZ is different. The state wildlife agency in AZ controls the coyote numbers and prohibits other political subdivisions from interfering.

People in AZ can remove coyotes and other nuisance wildlife in their neighborhoods. They just need to buy an AZ hunting license and follow the hunting regulations for their area. Otherwise, they can pay a nuisance wildlife removal business to do it.

Here is the statewide list of AZ Wildlife Removal Businesses
 


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