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Bflamante

Bflamante

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Was out driving around on Sunday in a town (Morgan, UT) about an hour from my house. Lots of open land. Houses on 3-10 acre lots. It was about 2 hours before sunset and there along the road was a nice red fox bouncing around in the front of someones yard. He was about 5 yards from the car. I had my pup and all the kids in tow. So here is the question. Everywhere was private land.

I got the dog out, but did not turn him loose. The fox split when I opened the door. After the pup sniffed around for a bit I put him back in the car. I figured that I should get permission to turn the dog loose on a fox in someone else's field. Would you guys consider it appropriate/inappropriate to turn a dog out on a fox in someone else's (stranger) front yard?

Also, are there farmers who WANT the fox around to manage the vermin in their fields??
 
if you do not have permission to turn a dog loose, it would be very inappropriate. the 1st thing in good houndsmenship is always get permission 1st before cutting a dog loose or get permission if possible if you dog wanders onto private property and you need to retrieve it.
 
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My guess would be that those with 3-10 acre parcels are not much of farmers or ranchers. More city folk wanting to get out of the urban setting, so I doubt they would want the fox harmed, permission or not.
Just my guess.
Rick H...
 
Always get permission. Always. It is the right thing to do, you may get off with a butt chewing or you may not like what the land owners does to your dog if you dont.
 
My opinion is to never "turn out" on ground I don't have permission.
If my dogs get off ground that I am allowed to hunt, and onto ground that I am not, I will always politely ask "may I retreive my dogs?" If the say yes, I just gather my dogs, and life goes on. If they say "no", I just call the Game cops, no need of a fist fight, the law here is that you may go on "any private ground to recover hunting dogs".
The 2 times it has happened, the Game Cop was pissed at the landowner.
 
permission is a must(with my beagles anyway)
i also try and evaluate the surrounding.raodways,neighbors pets etc.i won't cut loose if they could be in jeopardy of harm that i can control.
lol we were running on a small tract of land near pittsburghinternational airport one time.dogs hit a line,went under a fence and were off through a feild.well they lost the track and hit another line,off towards the runway they went,we had to shock them and get them back,when we got back to the truck the county cop was there to issue tickets of 130.00 to each of us,even though we werent on the property the cop said fight it.we did and lost,last time there.they have a small peice of ground they dont own but folks park there and ride dirtbikes(tresspass),cops knew right where to wait for us.
 
I am confused.

Why would anyone think that they could turn there dog/dogs loose on someone elses private property without permission? I can understand dogs leaving ground the owner has permission and going onto someone elses property, cause they can't read the no tresspassing sign. But c'mon...
 
the answer to your second question is yes, depending on what they are growing, some farmers want predators.. and what they said.
 
Thanks to all for answering. As a clarification I would have turned the dog loose along the road and he would likely have ended up chasing into private land. Either way looks like my gut was right. Still learning this whole owning a hunting dog and using them in a responsible manner. This forums help is greatly appreciated.
 
Originally Posted By: BflamanteThanks to all for answering. Still learning this whole owning a hunting dog and using them in a responsible manner. This forums help is greatly appreciated.

You'll do just fine with that attitude.
Nobody's born with all the answers, although I've met more than a few that seem convinced that they were.
Don't be afraid to ask questions no matter what others say.
A little humility and common sence goes a long way.
Good luck with your pup.

Charlie
 
Be especially careful in the Morgan area unless you were born there and still have family in good standing, lots of folks up that way are VERY unfriendly towards outsiders and it don't take much to be an outsider up there!
 
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