Dog training question?

Here is my best advice at this poit. If you want to continue to use the ecollar leave it on him. all the time, and completely forget that it has any function other than the tone. Use the tone lots. When he is laying on the floor and you want to scratch his head, tone him and use whatever voice command you want to get him to come. Even if it only requires him to sit up or take two steps he will get the point. After you tone him and he comes to you just go on about your business. Teach him the tone means he needs to check in, not attach to your side.

Its important that to him the tone means you expect something, not that he is about to get hurt.

It is also important that your dog handles and responds to voice commands every time before you try to teaching him to tone.
 
If you leave a shock collar on for longer than a week it will start to burn holes in their necks so dont ever leave a collar on for that amount of time. Just dont be a dumb a$$ and get shock happy spend time doing ground work if you think you need to short cut everything then get rid of the dog and buy one that is already trained. This aint rocket science
 
Originally Posted By: Devin69If you leave a shock collar on for longer than a week it will start to burn holes in their necks so dont ever leave a collar on for that amount of time. Just dont be a dumb a$$ and get shock happy spend time doing ground work if you think you need to short cut everything then get rid of the dog and buy one that is already trained. This aint rocket science

good advice Devin. guess i should have been more specific. I didnt mean to leave it permanently attached, but i guess thats how it sounded.
 
i havent had my dog back for a long time and have only put about 20 coyotes in front of him.

i have only toned him twice while he was on a coyote. now looking back, i shouldn't have. i was just concerned because i couldnt see him with a wad of coyotes and didnt want him ate up.

i have found out real quick that if i stay out of his way with tones and commands, he works alot better. he can read a coyote way better than i can to know when it is locked and when he needs to come back.
 
Thanks all! I may have gotten ahead of myself a little. I will take this as a learning experience and use the advice you all have given and apply it. If anyone has more, keep it coming! Thanks Again!
 
lots of good info here. Listen to what these guys have said and it will help you along.

I rarely have shocked my dog, about the only time was after he already knew to come to the tone and was chasing antelope and didn't come back to the tone. It only took twice and now he will break off anything he is chasing and come back at the tone. It's actually kinda funny to see him slam on the brakes from full run and come spinning back around.
The other time was when he was trying to jump out of the bed of the truck while driving and I didn't have any other way to keep him in at that moment. Now he won't put a paw on the bed rail.

Both times I had the shock set to one of the lowest settings. The dog shouldn't yelp or cringe if you use the shock. They can feel it before that point.


I would stay off the shocker and work on his commands using check cords and other training methods. Think of the collar as a communication device when in the field, rather than a training tool for every situation.
 
how old is your dog? if it is not a puppy, it should already know how to come to you, whatever command you use. just tone him and give him that command. he will figure it out soon.

i had to shock mine a week or so ago. walked to my calling spot and there were 2 tresspassers there. after our little "talk" they were on their merry way and Nuts was following them out. i toned him 3 times and he kept following them. i "knicked" him and he came back. the only other time was when we were walking into a field and he started to give chase to a bull. i stopped it immediatly. that is one thing i cant have hime doing being i hunt around cattle everyday.
 
Originally Posted By: SHamptonAfter reading the original post again I can't figure out what your reason for shocking the dog was.

Me neither. To me shocking is absolute last resort. You have to let the dogs learn a little on their own. I would recommend putting the shock collar in the box for a while and just spend time interacting with the dog. My dogs will turn on a dime at the sound of me whistling, and it has nothing to do with fear... they just know the drill.
 
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