Don't like how I hunt, huh?

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I just tune into this thread and have been speed reading it and there is some much bull going on here. Your not a real hunter because you haven't hunted big game and I know because I have hunted for 35 years. Well I have hunted for 42+ years and I say hunting small or large game or varmints or predators is hunting. Why do they call it squirrel hunting or turkey hunting or duck hunting. Those are not big game. I have hunted everything from Sparrows to Elk and what ever else is legal in Oregon (except Sheep,Goat,and Pronghorn only because Ihaven't drawn a tag yet.) So I say that Bucher45 is a hunter. Maybe he doesn't have years of hunting under his belt, but he does read alot and he asks alot of questions about hunting and he does have his own opinions on hunting just like the rest of us. A couple of you guys would rather call people names then to discuss like an adult. Read what people wrote or refer to. Look at the evidence with an open mind. Don't just start being rude. I think those few that start calling others names first, just like to hear themselves babble and don't read or care what others say. They want the last word. Arguements like this are pointless unless they are written calmly and each side reads the others with an open mind. Those that have more experance should already know what arguements like this can do to the hunting community. What Butcher45 shared was an exsample of what can happen and what is being shown in this thread. We are already divided. Fine if you don't hunt on a hunting ranch or high fense so what. No one says you have to. If the Fish and Game Dept. gives a high fense the go ahead to hunt, what business is it of yours? Same with the High Fense and ranch hunters. We are a hunting family as long as we are hunting legally. It doesn't matter what size of animal you are hunting. We are hunters and we must fight the anti's together or we will lose in the long run. We all know this. And that is the crux of the article that Butcher45 posted. This has turned into a thread about calling names and telling others they aren't hunters because they hunt smaller critters.
So I guess I should really say that I have 42+ years of hunting so everything I say is right and the rest of you guys that have less then 42+ years of hunting are not hunters and need not say anything until you do have 42+ years of hunting. Is that what this is all about? Who's who in the hunting world or aren't we supposed to be worrying about keep our right to hunt period. If we loose one type of hunting then we will loose another, and another, and another. Don't kid yourself it will happen that way. It has nothing to do with the type of hunt it has to do with what the anti's can get rid of first. Lets fight this fight together and accept each others type of hunting even though you don't care for it. You don't have to do it, just support it and those that do will get supported when thier type of hunting is in trouble. rupe
 
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I'll keep it simple for you. Since there are no game farms that have varmints on them, and that's all you hunt so far. Then you don't have the experience with hunting to be a expert on anything. I've on the other hand have hunted big game for 35 years, I've picked up just a bit more experience than you with your rodent hunting.

Get a big boy licence, elk or deer, go hunting in your state at least one year then come back with some advice.

Every one's an expert! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif



Who said I was an expert? And an expert on what? Surely not me.

For the umpteenth time this is not about gamefarms. You brought up game farms so you can hear yourself biitch.

It's also not about me, what I hunt, or my being new to hunting. It's about every hunter's rights to hunt, 4100fps. Attacking me is pointless, along with most everything else you have said.

It speaks volumes to your character, that you would put down a hunter for what he hunts, being new to the sport, and making an attempt to unify sportsman. Pretty much seals the deal on how truly pathetic you are.

You really should be ashamed of yourself, though I realize you haven't that ability. It's sad that you were brought up in this world without learning to be decent to others.

Thanks for the kind words, Rupe. I wrote about the guy whom you said owes me an apology earlier in the thread, and foretold how he would behave here. He's gone now, so 4100fps is here to take over for him for now.

They both just like to hear themselves biitch bittch bitchh. If they saw themselves coming to an agreement with anyone, they would immediately try to bbitch their way out of it, just to hear themselves bitcch some more. This thread proves it over and over again.
 
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How would I know if lots of little prairie dogs with black tails were expanding there range, unless I lived there?
I've had game farms in my back yard so I can relate first hand the effects they bring with them and the threat to the sport of hunting.
You see Redfrog, this post was about the threat's to our sport, and easily becoming the propellant for those that wish us stopped. I believe that the biggest threat comes with-in by our actions, or lack of action. Every time I turn on the sportsman channel and see some doof hunting on a game farm I'm embarrassed for the people affiliated with it. The view the other 80% gets of us as hunters is tarnished each time. It's nothing more than a sham. Only Ted Nugent says's that his hunting on a high fence operation. The others are embarrassed themselves or they wouldn't try to pass it off as fair chase.

If in fact and science, it was proven that the Black Tailed prairie dog was down to 2% of it's range in Colorado, would you at that time demand a stop to the hunting of them? As a sportsman. Oops! Another question. Sorry I know your not answering any.



Redfrog, did you miss this or do not know what your saying?

Answering questions is a two way street in America, it's give and take. I've been on the giving end and would like to see if you can answer a question or two. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 

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I just tune into this thread and have been speed reading it and there is some much bull going on here. Your not a real hunter because you haven't hunted big game and I know because I have hunted for 35 years.



Now where did I say he wasn't a real hunter? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

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I'll keep it simple for you. Since there are no game farms that have varmints on them, and that's all you hunt so far. Then you don't have the experience with hunting to be a expert on anything. I've on the other hand have hunted big game for 35 years, I've picked up just a bit more experience than you with your rodent hunting.

Get a big boy licence, elk or deer, go hunting in your state at least one year then come back with some advice.

Every one's an expert!




I said how can he be an expert, on big game hunting when he hasn't even done it! Now when your buddy contacted you to join in the fun I'd hoped your speed reading comprehension would have been better before your foot entered your mouth. Go back reread the whole post I'll test you later. On second thought go back and re-read the post twice. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
4100fps, I don't want to play anymore /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
You'll have to just play with yourself I guess. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
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Next time another hunter talks down on how you hunt, tell that cannibal to read this.


Cannibals and useful idiots

Written by John Wasmuth

The following is real, and it’s here.
Joe Hunter goes to a cocktail party, nothing fancy, just a holiday gathering in Anytown, USA. A conversation begins with Bob Peta, it goes something like this;
“Say Joe, didn’t you go deer hunting this year.”
“Sure did Bob.”
“Man that’s, uh, great, did you get one?”
“Yep, sure did, nice 6 point.”
“Uh, wow, hey that’s great. Say listen Joe, yer a true hunter, a Real” hunter are you not?”
“Yes, I sure am.”
“Say, I hear tell of a kinda huntin where people can go and kill animals in fenced in areas. You’ve never done that have you?”
“No, no I haven’t.”
“Well I wouldn’t call that “real” hunting, would you Joe.”
“Well, that’s not the way I hunt.”
“I know Joe, but there are people that hunt in fenced areas, I don’t think that’s “Really” hunting, do you Joe.”
“Well, uh, I guess not.”
“Great, say listen Joe, a bunch of us concerned “Real” hunters are trying to get that done away with, we feel that it is unethical. Will you help us Joe?”
“Well sure, because that’s not the way I hunt, and I am a “Real” hunter.”
“Say thanks Joe; here is what we need you to do. As a “real” hunter, the big boys in senate and congress will listen to you; they know that any “Real” hunter only hunts the way you do, and that’s the only “Real” hunting there is. So what we need you to do is get out there and get petitions signed, people will sign them because you are a “Real” hunter and know that only your way of hunting is the “Real” way.”
So Joe diligently goes after the goal, to ban and outlaw any kind of hunting that Bob suggests is not “Real” hunting. He gathers signatures, petitions courts, makes meetings, he is really cleaning up this “unethical” way of hunting. Hell, he’s got a lot of support. He’s gathering “Real” hunters from all over, and finally, after much hard work, they get a legal way of hunting banned.

“Joe, you did great and we sure appreciate your hard work, but hey, let me tell you what I heard about. There is another kind of hunting “We” think is not right. Do you think you can help us?”
“Well, I guess so Bob, I don’t hunt like that, so it’s not “Real” hunting. How can I help?”
“Well, here is what we need…….,” and it’s the same story. Odd how Bob seems to keep adding onto the list of what “Real” hunting is, but Joe goes at it hard and heavy, and in the end, he gets that type of legal hunting banned. Bob and his “Friends” are happy. Joe’s a “Real” hunter after all, and these other guy’s, well, they are not, because the way they hunt is different from Joe, and Joe does not like that type of hunting, so what’s the harm in getting rid of it? Joe’s a “Real” hunter you know. Not like those other guys. He even goes to Sportsman’s organizations and recruits from within, it’s easy because there are a lot of “Real” hunters there.

Time passes and more and more legal forms of hunting are banned. Bob and his “friends” are happy with Joe. He’s been a big help. After it’s all just about gone, Bob and his “friends” decide that it is time to get Joe’s way of hunting banned, the final chapter.
“Bob, uh, hey buddy, this is Joe. I know I helped you get rid of all those other forms of legal hunting, but now there is a move to get rid of the way I hunt.”
“Well Joe, I know. My “friends” and I are spearheading that.”
“But Bob, I thought you liked the way I hunt, that it was ok for me to do the type of hunting I do.”
“Well Joe, no, any and all types of hunting are bad, the poor defenseless animals never have a chance, and we dislike, actually hate hunters.”
“But I thought the way I hunted was “Real” hunting to you.”
“Hell Joe, it was all “ Real” hunting, but we at PETA and HSUS Hate you, but thanks for all your help, we really appreciate it.”

You see, what Joe became was a “Cannibal”. A “Useful Idiot” to the anti’s and PETA. They don’t give a rat’s backside how you hunt, what you hunt, or when you hunt. They just want all hunting done away with. They use hunters against hunters to gain support for their “Causes”.

If you do not support any and all forms of legal hunting, and decide to pick and chose the ones you like and dislike, and voice any decent about the way someone else legally hunts, you are in fact, a “Cannibal” and a very very “Useful Idiot” for the enemy. There are plants even within the sacred walls of your favorite Sportsman’s organizations. Route them out, expose them, and rid the board of them. Hunting’s future depends upon it.

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Mr. Wasmuth's analogy was poorly chosen, from where I sit. We, sportsman in Montana did away with canned hunts without any input from Peta or any other hugger org. Tying this to the fact that if we fight any all form of legal hunting we are "Cannibals" or useful idiots, is offensive to all sportsman in Montana. If it's legal it doesn't necessarily mean that it's good for our sport of hunting. The game farm issue was a poor choice because it threatens the sport of hunting itself, and in banning the hunting on them we actually headed off a potential catastrophe He should have used something like the bowhunting analogy. Redfrog won't read this he doesn't have the attention span. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-006.gif
 
I wasn't trying to quote you word for word, but that is what I got out of your statement. Just because someone hasn't hunted big game you look down upon them and treat them as a lesser in your world.
I don't feel that I have put my foot in my mouth. I also wasn't invited by anyone to join on here. I came on because I am a member here and I'm allowed to post my opinion just as everyone else.
I don't see where Butcher said he was a big game expert, maybe you could find that post for me, because I might make a mistake and you might get even more defensive and I am not here to argue, I'm here to let you and others know that Butcher is a good guy and doesn't deserve to be called names and told to buy a big boys license. By the way we only have regular old hunting licenses in this state and he has to have one before he hunts anything.
Now let me ask you a few question. Why do you feel you have to be rude to me just because Butcher45 is a friend of mine? Did I name your name in my post? Was I rude to you? Do you think that maybe you are being just a bit defensive?
I do hope that I have explained myself and why I don't feel like I have put my foot in my mouth as I have said I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else. I am here to support my friend which is what friends do for each other. If I felt he was wrong I would tell him so, but I don't feel he is wrong in sharing his opinion on this thread whether right or wrong everyone has that right. I shall wait for your answers to my questions. rupe
 
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I wasn't trying to quote you word for word, but that is what I got out of your statement.


Well you where wrong!
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Just because someone hasn't hunted big game you look down upon them and treat them as a lesser in your world


No it means he was giving advice as though he was an expert.
An expert with no experience.
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I don't feel that I have put my foot in my mouth.


Ya did it again by posting again.
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I'm here to let you and others know that Butcher is a good guy and doesn't deserve to be called names and told to buy a big boys license.



I never called Butcher45 any name. If he was a big boy he wouldn't need your help.

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Now let me ask you a few question. Why do you feel you have to be rude to me just because Butcher45 is a friend of mine? Did I name your name in my post? Was I rude to you? Do you think that maybe you are being just a bit defensive?


Your 1st post here, you posted looking for a fight, read read and let me know what you come up with. You quoted my post although missed some words. You jumped in without reading the whole thread. If you had your post would have been different. I said I had 35 years of Big Game Hunting experience. You said you had 42 years of hunting. Since we were talking about big game stay specific on your experience hunt big game only.

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Was I rude to you?

You read your post and let me know.
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Do you think that maybe you are being just a bit defensive?

Give me a break.

He's wrong, and so are you. You can't win this war. I have to many weapons on my side.
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I'm sorry but your only weapons are your rude mouth. You can't carry on a nice calm discussion with out being rude in everything you say. You are showing yourself as being a child that needs to win. What I think is that you are a troll and that you are trying to suck me and everyone else into your little game. I don't think you are a hunter, I think you sit in a chair at your computer and look for someone to suck into your game. Well I'm not going to play your game. I tried to talk to you as an adult and you couldn't do it so that pretty much shows me and everyone else that you are trolling for an arguement. I was not rude to you in my last post what so ever. So you pick things apart to see if you can get me worked up, well it doesn't happen over the computer. If you would like to sit down for a cup of coffee while I'm up there, I would be more then happy to listen to you. Maybe you should PM me with your phone number and we can see where our friendship broke down. I bet we could save it if we just talked it out, don't you think? I'll be waiting for your phone number. You have yourself a nice evening there kiddo, later rupe
 
I remember when this forum was for discussing predator calling. Ahhh, those were the days. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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I wasn't trying to quote you word for word, but that is what I got out of your statement.


Well you where wrong!
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Just because someone hasn't hunted big game you look down upon them and treat them as a lesser in your world


No it means he was giving advice as though he was an expert.
An expert with no experience.
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I don't feel that I have put my foot in my mouth.


Ya did it again by posting again.
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I'm here to let you and others know that Butcher is a good guy and doesn't deserve to be called names and told to buy a big boys license.



I never called Butcher45 any name. If he was a big boy he wouldn't need your help.

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Now let me ask you a few question. Why do you feel you have to be rude to me just because Butcher45 is a friend of mine? Did I name your name in my post? Was I rude to you? Do you think that maybe you are being just a bit defensive?


Your 1st post here, you posted looking for a fight, read read and let me know what you come up with. You quoted my post although missed some words. You jumped in without reading the whole thread. If you had your post would have been different. I said I had 35 years of Big Game Hunting experience. You said you had 42 years of hunting. Since we were talking about big game stay specific on your experience hunt big game only.

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Was I rude to you?

You read your post and let me know.
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Do you think that maybe you are being just a bit defensive?

Give me a break.

He's wrong, and so are you. You can't win this war. I have to many weapons on my side.
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4100fps you say we were talking about big game hunting and that is not what this post is about despite you best efforts to change the topic to fenced hunts. You imply I was offering advice on big game hunting and I was not. You say that I am promoting myself as an expert of some sort and I am not.

You can't read what has been written in this thread, however everyone else can, and knows you are a liar when you say these things directed at me.

I now realize beyond a doubt that trying to communicate with 4100fps is like seeing a mentally-ill person wrapped in a blanket yelling jibberish to themselves randomly on the street, walking up to them, and expecting to engage in a rational conversation with them.
Not trying to be rude, but dang that's the best way to put it when it comes to 4100fps.

You can't stop thinking about high fences long enough to notice that I have not once debated the high-fence issue with you. Then proceed to belittle the small-game/varmint hunting I do.

I am going to join the ranks of those that have already given up hope on getting thru to 4100fps on this thread, and stop entertaining the out-right lies/irrational gibberish that began when he first hi-jacked this thread on page one so he could hear himself cause havoc for as long as possible.
4100fps a classic (and extreme) example of what the post was originally about in the first place. The divisiveness between hunters (on all sorts of methods of legal hunting), and the need for hunters to unite against the PETA and HSUS that want to see all hunting abolished.
 
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Don't beat around the bush Butcher45, tell it to him straight. LOL

So has anyone shot any predators after calling them in lately? I haven't but hope to soon. I'm healed up enough I think I can hobble far enough from the Jeep to call something in now. I'm going to have to try and see if it's do able. Hey Butcher what do you think? Shall we plan a little trip for some coyote calling?
 
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Don't beat around the bush Butcher45, tell it to him straight. LOL

So has anyone shot any predators after calling them in lately? I haven't but hope to soon. I'm healed up enough I think I can hobble far enough from the Jeep to call something in now. I'm going to have to try and see if it's do able. Hey Butcher what do you think? Shall we plan a little trip for some coyote calling?



If we do that predation thing at the cattle ranch, sure. Otherwise I'm saving the two hot-spots that are close to me for the winter fur.
There's always that nutria problem year round, though.
I'll e-mail you.
 
Rupedog and Butcher, did ya'll get predator hunt approved by 4100fps? Remember he gets to tell everone how they can and cant hunt. I would check with him just to make sure ya'll are good to go.
 
Oh man, I knew I forgot to do something! Hum, I'll have to get right on that.

Thanks for reminding us Courtgus, that could have been a big Oops! LOL
 
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There's always that nutria problem year round, though.



I've heard conflicting stories about the epicurian potential of that giant swamp rat. Some say it tastes just like rabbit, while others say it stinks so bad while cooking it they had to throw it away before it was finished cooking. Anyone tried to eat one?
 
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There's always that nutria problem year round, though.



I've heard conflicting stories about the epicurian potential of that giant swamp rat. Some say it tastes just like rabbit, while others say it stinks so bad while cooking it they had to throw it away before it was finished cooking. Anyone tried to eat one?



The guy that runs a farm I hunt sometimes traps and eats them. He bakes them. I have yet to try it but probably will soon. If it tastes good, I have an endless supply of meat all year long. If it doesn't, I can always make dog treats out of them.
I can tell you this; you don't want to puncture the intestines when cleaning them, and get that stuff on any of the meat. %100 NASTY!
 
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