Hey thx guys for the info, Like i said im pretty new to this and reading some of your guys post im getting real excited about the challege.. me and my boss are looking for something to pass the time, but from the looks of it i could turn this into a full time thing.. Just one more question.. what do most of you guys do with your hides when you are done, Im not looking to sell them or anything, just dont want them to go to waste, and hopefully i come across the right one to take to the taxidermist.. Thx again Joe