Ecaller clipping out Still

Dmcgee

Dmcgee

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I know I have asked this question a few times in the past. But its been a while but I am still having problems with my ecaller clipping out at higher volumes. It does it a louder sharp parts of several of the sounds. A good example of when it does it is when I play a coyote challenge. THe initial bark at the beginning of the sound clips out. I use foxpro sounds and have tried "fixing" them on goldwave but I couldn't get it to help the problem. Can yall give a list of things to try to fix it. Its coming up on the time to start callin again and I want to get it straight. ANy help will appreciated.............Drew
 
In the old days of recording Rock and Roll, clipping was generally related to recording at too high volume(output). If your sound is copied it could have been recorded poorly prior to your getting it. If not you might try recording from the original again, at very low volume(read output).
anyway can't hurt to try, good luck.
Carl
 
My old tape player would clip when the batteries were low. So I would guess you have a power problem. Im no electronics wiz, but Id try checking what voltage your equipment will run on. The two things id try are adding another battery of the same voltage to add more available current secondly id try a battery that is 1.5 volts more. If neither work you should look into your amplifier. You can also put a voltmeter on your battery when the caller is on and see if the voltage is being loaded down by something. Hope I gave you some ideas
 
If you send too high/strong of a signal to the amp, the sound will clip. Try turning down the output of your source and see if that helps.
 
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Home made caller im guessing?



yes it is

what is a good battery to use. I am using a 9.9 volt rechargable rc car battery from radio shack
 
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If you send too high/strong of a signal to the amp, the sound will clip. Try turning down the output of your source and see if that helps.



how do I do that?
 
Tell me about your setup. Are you playing the sounds through an mp3 or cd player and sending the headphone output to an amp?

If that is the case, turn down the headphone output level on the player.

If you are just sending a sound source to the speakers, assuming the speaker is if decent quality, it could be that the recording was recorded too loud.

Let me know,

Karl
 
I wish lionho was here he knows this stuff.
The pre-amp basiclly decodes the sound, the amp makes it have volume and allows mixing, Bass, Mid, treble,fade, balance etc.
If you get the sound from the pre-amp it is cleaner, ie; if you play a tape, the tape player sends the sound to the amp for volume and adjustment, from the pre-amp it is just the signal. If you record from the pre-amp the clipping should be eliminated.
If you cant, set the amp at zero volume, you do not need to be able to actually "hear" the signal to record it. Once you record the signal to your caller, when you play it, you can adjust the volume.
I cant explain this well, hope it helps.
Carl
 
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Tell me about your setup. Are you playing the sounds through an mp3 or cd player and sending the headphone output to an amp?

If that is the case, turn down the headphone output level on the player.

If you are just sending a sound source to the speakers, assuming the speaker is if decent quality, it could be that the recording was recorded too loud.

Let me know,

Karl



I have a MP3 player I am playing into a Nady DKW1 transmitter. In the unit itself I have a vellman amp a 9,9 v RC car battery, Nady reciever and a speco speaker.

I tried turning down the volume on the transmitter on the Nady unti but that didn't work.

I would guess the problem is that my amp is too loud I probaly need a way to turn it down.

Or put more power through my amp. What is a good rechargable 12v battery to use.
 
Drew, have you downloaded GoldWave (or do you have another sound editor) to can look at the track that is clipping, to be sure that it is not the recording that was clipped? And have you tried reducing the volume in the digital file of this track/these tracks?
What make and model of MP3? Which Velleman amp model? Speco model?
Did you eliminate all the fine guage wire in your amp and speaker circuit?
LionHo
 
It sounds like the mp3 is turned up too much, and the loudest portions of the sounds are clipping. If it were my setup, the first thing I would do is turn down the level on the mp3, and also make sure you did not drive the sounds too hard when you edited them to put on the mp3. Hope that made sense.

If it were the amp that was too loud, most of the sound would be distorted, not just the peaks/loudest parts.
 
LionHo,

Yes I have downloaded goldwave. I tried lowering the volume on a few of the sounds. I will try it again I got frustrated with it a while back and left it alone. I am just now getting back to the problem.

My amp is the the 7w kit I think. Its the one a lot of people here have bought and built.

My mp3 player is a cheapo off of ebay I'm not sure of the make/model. I don't hear any clipping when I play the sound through headphone on my mp3 player. Nor do I hear it when I playit on my computer.

I do have small guage wires conected to my amp I will try to fix that first.

I will also try to look at the sound on GOldwave agin too.

Drew
 
What speakers are you using. It is possible that the speaker can't handle the volume levels you are sending to it. Does it clip or distort even at quiet volumes?
 
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What speakers are you using. It is possible that the speaker can't handle the volume levels you are sending to it. Does it clip or distort even at quiet volumes?



I use a speco spc-5 or something like that. I think a lot of people are using the sam without problems.
 
Ok guys I reduced the volume on some of the sounds and still had the same problems. I also replace all of the fine gauged wire. And still no luck. Someone mentioned at one time that I may not be getting enough power to my amp and thoughts there. I am using a 9.9 volt rc car rechargeable battery. any suggestions?
 
Sounds to me as though the tracks themselves were clipped in recording them. You should be able to see this in the default GoldWave graph easily enough--if the volume peaks look not like peaks but like mesas (IOW if they have flat "tops". Quite common with tracks that someone has copied from tapes and bootlegged on the web for free download, btw).

But if you've got a known good track w/o clipping in the recording itself, time to start swapping out components one at a time 'til you find the cure. Start with the that bargain-basement generic MP3 device.

LionHo
 
An NiMH pack that's spot-welded (as any R/C purposed-pack will be) is capable of delivering more peak current than a gel cell of similar capacity, is about half the weight, and will also take a fast-charge.
But just about any 12V battery you might already have should be helpful to diagnosing your problem--just be sure to observe the correct polarity.
LionHo
 


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