Originally Posted By: tripod3I know guys here beating the no license 50cc moped legal limit by boring it to a larger cc. Looks the same with much more power.
I'd bet the electric models can be swapped with a larger motor and have the smaller rating tag.
Old tricks from the beginning of the mechanical era.
Most Feds or wannabe's know far less about this stuff than what they had for breakfast three days ago. I have experienced unbelievable ignorance with more apologies than I can count.
Just know the rules yourself.
Sounds like the guys "beating the rules" are the ignorant ones. The rules are such so as to keep public lands from becoming a public mudpit from those who would only wish to ride easier, and not "stress" themselves walking. As mentioned above, handicapped persons are another story in my book - truly handicapped persons. While I personally carry more metal in my body for permanent repairs than most people dream of, I strive to remain mobile independently. Just this year, I had the opportunity to hunt a public land area where we accessed by a driveable, but gated road. It is posted as open to folks with a handicapped permit, but those rules state only the handicapped person can access it via powered vehicle. All others, including helpers of the handicapped person, cannot use the vehicle under power. A buddy and I went scouting a couple times, and hunted it a few. Saw multiple vehicles with multiple people in them, and didnt see a handicapped tag anywhere. Turned some in too. It has become where the enforcement guys cant keep up with the violations. Ridiculous. Realize in PA we have the largest hunting population in the country per acre available to hunt. And our public lands gt hammered in spots by mt bikers, illegal ATV's, etc. Too much easy access back in the boonies ruins the "back in" for those who work for it.
I can see legal utility in these electric bike, and at least they're quiet. Way too expensive for me at this point in my life, and I'll walk or pedal, thanx. At least they are quiet.