Rustydust
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Hey Guys
My 25 year old Savage 112 has been giving me ignition problems. It's wearing it's third barrel (.223 AI) and other than that and a Rifle Basix trigger it is factory. I loaded up some new SIG .223 brass the other day to fireform and I had some 50 grain Vmaxes loaded with some VV V133 powder. Went to the local range and after putting on my muffs (my suppressor is soaking in solvent at the moment) and getting into shooting position I tried my first shot. Click. What? Opened and closed the bolt again. Click. Tried it a third time and it fired. This kept happening until I had one round that would not fire despise how many times I tried. The primers were fresh out of the box CCI BR-4. My favorite cap. Many a thousand have I purchased over the years. I tried some other ammo both in .223 and .223 AI and nary a problem. All went off and even shot excellent. Hmmm....
After I got home I tried loaded some of the primers out of the same brick into some of the same kind of new brass. Just the primer. Waddayaknow? Misfires again. Multiple strikes needed (at least two) to make it fire. Tried some CCI 450, CCI 400, Federal and W-W primers and no failures. Then I found a partial box of older BR primers and all 11 pf them fired no problem. Interesting.
Gets better. Tried those same suspect primers in one of my other .223 Rifles, this one my CZ 527, and pop pop pop pop pop pop. OK. Now what?
A year or so ago I seem to be having some misfires with that gun so (thanks YouTube) I took the bolt apart and cleaned it (not all that dirty) and that seemed to help make it go bang. But now I am wondering if all I need to do is replace the firing pin and spring and that will be the fix. I have been told that BR caps are thicker but are they even thicker now? Older ones I had ignited fine. AND the new ones fired in the CZ without a hitch. Could be a combo of weak spring/blunt firing pin and harder primers?
Brownells has a firing pin/spring for $20. I think that I will buy it and see what that does. May as well try it.
Any of you guys got any ideas? I love the BR primers, even at their increased cost. Hate to quit using them in this gun.
My 25 year old Savage 112 has been giving me ignition problems. It's wearing it's third barrel (.223 AI) and other than that and a Rifle Basix trigger it is factory. I loaded up some new SIG .223 brass the other day to fireform and I had some 50 grain Vmaxes loaded with some VV V133 powder. Went to the local range and after putting on my muffs (my suppressor is soaking in solvent at the moment) and getting into shooting position I tried my first shot. Click. What? Opened and closed the bolt again. Click. Tried it a third time and it fired. This kept happening until I had one round that would not fire despise how many times I tried. The primers were fresh out of the box CCI BR-4. My favorite cap. Many a thousand have I purchased over the years. I tried some other ammo both in .223 and .223 AI and nary a problem. All went off and even shot excellent. Hmmm....
After I got home I tried loaded some of the primers out of the same brick into some of the same kind of new brass. Just the primer. Waddayaknow? Misfires again. Multiple strikes needed (at least two) to make it fire. Tried some CCI 450, CCI 400, Federal and W-W primers and no failures. Then I found a partial box of older BR primers and all 11 pf them fired no problem. Interesting.
Gets better. Tried those same suspect primers in one of my other .223 Rifles, this one my CZ 527, and pop pop pop pop pop pop. OK. Now what?
A year or so ago I seem to be having some misfires with that gun so (thanks YouTube) I took the bolt apart and cleaned it (not all that dirty) and that seemed to help make it go bang. But now I am wondering if all I need to do is replace the firing pin and spring and that will be the fix. I have been told that BR caps are thicker but are they even thicker now? Older ones I had ignited fine. AND the new ones fired in the CZ without a hitch. Could be a combo of weak spring/blunt firing pin and harder primers?
Brownells has a firing pin/spring for $20. I think that I will buy it and see what that does. May as well try it.
Any of you guys got any ideas? I love the BR primers, even at their increased cost. Hate to quit using them in this gun.