Family Pit Bulls Killing Own Kids!

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Did I Say I hate Pit Bulls! On the news tonight they reported about a Pit Bull Killing a young boy riding his bike. It mentioned South Carolina and I missed the town.
So I just searched and was not so surprised to see several Family Pet Pit Bulls Killing their own family's kids inside the home. Didn't find the one killed today. http://www.keyetv.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=a49edcc9-4a9d-4acf-8cb1-f981a6166d5a http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=49012 http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5641488
 
I catch one on this place and it's DRT. Period.

BTW, I would be safer around the critter in my avatar than around a pit bull. I have zero tolerance for some dogs, those being one of them.
 
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I hate 'em too. Absolutely useless breed unless you are a street pharmicist or other thug wannabee. I say exterminate them. Their dogs, too.
 
My son used to have a "Staffordshire Terrier", which is nothing more than a Pit Bull with long legs..just a little smaller than a Great Dane...

Sweet Dog unless you were a cat that wandered in the yard, and hard to control if on a leash and he wanted to go someplace. He used to ride with me at night when I was working a security job that required me to be in some rough areas.. Scared the daylights out of a few wannabe's, but saved them from getting shot and me in court..

When the granddaughters started coming along, I finally was able to convince him to get rid of it...
 
I have a prejudice towards certain breeds of dog. I will not argue it with anyone because I get only once chance to raise my kids and I will not debate weather the pit bull or rotweiler in my yard is friendly or not. Same goes for any other dog that might present a danger to my family.

And don't get me started on how chihuaha's are more likely to bite than pits. I know many small breeds of dogs bite a lot of people. However, in my opinion the danger a dog presents has two variables. How likely is the dog to bite/attack and how severe the damage if they do. I wouldn't appreciate being bitten by a cocker spaniel, but I'm sure the pit bull would really dissapoint me.
 
I own a pit bull/lab mix that is as sweet as can be, although she can get a little hinkey when she hears loud noises. You could never take her hunting. "Hinkey," in her case means that she finds the deepest, darkest place she can find to go hide in until the noise stops.

Lots of dog breeds can be vicious. It largely depends on who raised them, and what their breeding background is. I've met pit bulls that are the gentlest, most loyal creatures you could ever know. I've seen others that were pure killing machines. I've seen bad Rotweilers, and good Rotweilers. Bad German Shepards, and good German Shepards. Bad Doberman Pinchers, and good Domermans, etc., etc., etc.

If any of you have ever watched "The Dog Whisperer" on TV, there's a pit bull he works with all the time named "Daddy." If he ever brings Daddy around my place, I'm gonna dog-nap him. He's the coolest dog on the planet.

For the most part, I don't think there is such a thing as a bad breed of dog. I think that most bad dogs are really just poor animals unfortunate enough to be owned by arse-wipes. Dogs are pack animals, and they will take on the characteristics of the Alpha male. If the Alpha male is mean old booger eater, then the dog will be too.

...at least, that's my theory. I could be full of poo.
 
For those of you who feel it's not the good ol doggy that is bad it's the owners. Why does it seem that the only bad owners are those that have pit bulls that bite. I bet there are millions of other breeds in bad dog owner homes, why is it that the pit bull seems to be the one that kills and mames the worst. It's been said many times, lots of dogs bit but harm little, pits bite and do great harm. I hate'em all.


...... But I must admit the guy on the Dog Whisperer has me thinking. but you must admit that he's one of a kind and I'd like to see his dogs with a stranger when he hasn't been around for a while.
 
I really wish they would put a open season on ths useless breed of dogs.I bet a coyote fur would bring more!!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif I wont let my kids go near them. My 6 year old has a friend who has one inside and one day he came to ball practice with scratches on his face where the dog jumped on him! My friend is in law enforcement and says some of the time when they are chained up outside there is something illegal going on(drugs)intimidation puting them by the front door!
 
I don't have a prejudice towards certain breeds of dog. I'm prejudice against certain types of owners.

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For those of you who feel it's not the good ol doggy that is bad it's the owners. Why does it seem that the only bad owners are those that have pit bulls that bite.



It's because these weenyless wonders get a dog and MAKE it mean to make up for their own inadequacies. I've known a few gentle, lovable pitbulls.
 
i have owned pit bulls all my life and there is not a more loving loyal dog on this earth.if you take a kid and beat him treat him like trash how do you think he is going to turn out.dogs are the same way.you love and care for them and they will treat you the same way.buy the way the killer pit bull that i have will let the cats eat out of his food bowl at the same time that he is eating.
 
A Pit Bull raised from a pup by a dog owner who knows what he or she is doing can be as fine a dog as any breed out there. Unfortunately there are some breeds that are much harder than others to get the upper hand on. The Pit Bull is one of them. Almost any breed is capable of being a monster if they are mistreated and not raised properly. There are many breeds out there that are a much better choice for the average person whose true dog knowledge is limited. Dogs are pack animals and must be taught there place during puppyhood because some like Pits, Chows, Akitas, Rotweilers, Pinschers and several others can be dangerous when they are raised wrong. It truely is not the breed. Pit Bulls can be dangerous because they have the tools to be dangerous. I have a Nebolish Mastiff that also could be dangerous because he has the tools. He is 35" at the shoulders and weighs about 175 lbs. The Chinese Pug in the picture puts him on the floor sometimes and wont let him up. Thats how mean the Mastiff is. He looks pretty mean doesnt he?

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I will grant that certain breeds of dogs have what dog handlers call "a higher drive" than other breeds, and that those breeds are also better equipped to inflict damage than many other breeds. Those would include Pits, Pinschers, Dobies, German Sheperds, Malamutes, etc. BUT... the way the dog turns out is largely the product of that particular owner's abilities or attitudes as a dog owner. In a way, arguing against ownership of certain breeds of dogs is a little bit like arguing against ownership of certain types of guns...

"Why do you need an AR15 (or substitute Barret M82, or Remington 700 XCR Tactical in .308, etc., etc., etc.)? It's nothing but an eeeeeeeeevil assault rifle designed to do nothing but kill humans!!"

"But sir, it is the intent behind the gun that makes it evil, not the gun itself."

"BALDERDASH! Outlaw them, I say. If we make them impossible to get, then you can't do anything bad with them."

It is dangerous ground on which to stake a claim, as it can be used against you. It assumes that the individual dog owner/gun owner is already a guilty person, and that the individual dog/gun is a bad thing that must be removed from society. Arguments based on eliminating dogs that are better equipped by nature to injure with a bite than other dogs are identical to the arguments that some guns are less morally defensible than others because of caliber, rate of fire, or magazine capacity.

If the person owning the dog is a dangerous cretin, his dogs will be dangerous dogs. If the person owning the dog is a respectable citizen who exercises good judgment, his dogs will be respectable citizens with good judgment. Far better to eradicate dangerous cretins and get those dogs into good homes populated by people who can manage a high drive dog.

I realize that I probably won't convince those that want to kill all pit bulls, but I do wonder if you have thought this completely through based on the example I've given above.

That's my 2¢, now I've got to duck and run. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
Staffordshire Bull Terriers are not long legged big dogs at all. Once again a bunch of nonsense coming from the folks who dont know any better. 99% of "Pitt Bull" attacks are actually mixed breed, mutt dogs with some terrier in them, not any kind of Bully breed. Actual purebred bully breeds are the best family dogs one can own.

Heres my Staffordshire Bull Terrier, getting ready to tear the throat out of a poor little child:

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the "killer pit bull"
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My dog is a family member, some jackass attempts to harm my dog, he will be dealt with as if he was trying to harm my wife or child.

Oh yeah, find the pitt bull:

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html
 
Camo, that link is probably a pit bull owner's worst enemy. Some of the pictures are so unrepresentative of the respective breed that it is not funny. Compare the pit shown on the selection page to the one that pops up on the first link you pick at the bottom of the page.
Is that really a lab? A JRT? At a quick glance I wouldn't have confused either with a pit...or the breed that site claims they represent. Do they think people are stupid and that that kind of crap will win them support?

The problem with breeds like a pit is that when they attack they do not stop. Sure, collies and shepherds bite more people, a nip that might require a few stitches to sew up. What happens when a pit attacks? Something usually gets severely mauled or dies.

The "I own a pit and they're the best" and blaming the attacks on the ghetto crowd or the ignorant owners who can't establish dominance over their dog is really not relevant.
Yes, probably 99.99999% of all pits owned live out a harmless and loving life. The problem with the breed - the family of breeds, for that matter - occurs when that 0.00001% snaps. They go berserk. You cannot stop them.

I'll give two personal examples of pits gone bad that fall outside of the excuses made above to pardon the breed. I'll not spend a lot of time typing it because I know how the owners of the breed will react and make excuses. Hopefully, it will cause any responsible adults who are considering owning one to think twice about it, particularly if there are children in your home.

Case 1. Middle 30's married couple, both with a decent education. Both gainfully employed. No known drug dependencies or income. Dedicated pet owners who did all of the obedience training, dominance establishment, etc... Sounded just like you guys above.

Both of their pets were purebred dogs, a 7 yo and a 4 yo. Owned from pups by the family. Both from different breeders. Reputable breeders, not puppy mills or ghetto yards.

"My pits are the best, most loving dogs on the planet. We plan on having children and have absolutely no concern......" Keep adding all of the normal excuses and justifications that pit owners add.... That was the attitude of that couple until........

They were camping one day next to a pond and a pasture full of cattle on the family farm, a setting very familiar to them and their dogs. Something they probably do 10 or 12 times a year and have done for years.
The pits lost it and attacked the cows. The pet owners tried to intervene and were themselves attacked, though admittedly they were only bitten 10 or 12 times before the pits returned to the cows. 2 cows were put down due to injuries received from 2 of the most loving family dogs on the planet. 2 people required stitches from 2 of the most loving family dogs on the planet. 6 or 8 other cows were mauled but lived after an attack by 2 of the most loving family dogs on the planet.
The attack ended when both dogs were shot.

2nd case - My nephew working at the vet.'s. A pure bred pit that has been cared for at that facility for years, owned by middle-aged middle-American farmers (read that as non-drug dealing white folk for all of you excuse makers) turned on him with no warning or provocation. Fortunately, he was able to get out a door and only suffered bites to the hands, forearms, inner thighs (scared the lad bad, that did) and his upper back.

There are two problems with the breed(s).
1.) If they do attack they fight as they were bred to do. Something dies. Contrast this with how other breed families behave.
2.) Though admittedly rare, they do sometimes snap without apparent warning or cause. Regardless of the training of the owner and the dog. Regardless of the owner’s social status. If this happens see #1 above.

Save the electrons excuse makers. I've typed all I have to say. I do not care if you have owned pits all of your life with no incidents. There are many other people out there just like you. Your claims are not relevant. The horrible consequences of the attacks that do occur are, regardless of how rare they are.

Heard of any good beagle perpetrated mauling lately?

Collie or Shepard attacks on humans? Yes; and they are probably more common, but it was one bite and they were done. No maulings. Not newsworthy.


The dogs earn the headlines they get.
 
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I have a Nebolish Mastiff that also could be dangerous because he has the tools. He is 35" at the shoulders and weighs about 175 lbs. The Chinese Pug in the picture puts him on the floor sometimes and wont let him up. Thats how mean the Mastiff is. He looks pretty mean doesnt he?

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I have been around several different mastiff breeds, and owned a mixed mastiff myself. When I see your pic it reminds me of of Jordan (had to put her down this last summer /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif) Only one word comes to mind....Hambone!

Only once in the 11 years she was with me did she ever get out of line, and it was with a skunk in the backyard, I think she was provoked! needless to say the little stinker didnt fair to well /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif She was a Brazilian Mastiff/Bloodhound mix. The bloodhound was the "traveling salesman" LOL Sure do miss her, she had more heart than most poeple I know.
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A percentage of gun owners that have semi-auto rifles snap and go on shooting sprees at malls, schools and churches. This has happened at all three places just this year. It's nothing new. Remember Patrick Purdy? Is it the owner or the rifle?
 


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