Farmers & Llama

canislatrans54

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I have noticed in Okla. & Nebr. a lot of farmers having llamas running with horses, cows, goats or sheep.
Does anyone have ideas as to why? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
I think I heard something about them chasing predators, is this true? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif And possibly why? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

Thanks for any info you can give this curious/confused redneck. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
 
I don't know about the Llama, But I do know that a donkey/mule will keep Coyotes out of the pasture. They are used a lot in this area. I have never successfully called a coyote when they are in the area I am pasture. Tell Cody Thanks. Randy
 
They are used for exaclty that. I have an Uncle in Colorado that trains sheep dogs and he kept losing his sheep to yotes. He went out and got a llama and hasn't lost one since.

I am told that they hate coyotes (and dogs for that matter) and will try to stomp them to death if they can catch them. It seems to be working for him.

Here is an interestiong site that has more information than you would ever want on the subject: LLAMAS
 
Yep, llamas hate coyote. they hate everything for that matter. My father-by-law has one. My daughter named him Louie. She is the only one who can get near the crazy thing. Louie the llama will spit, stamp, paw and act generally mean to anything near, even trees.
 
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Louie the llama will spit, stamp, paw and act generally mean to anything near, even trees.



I have a bull that does all that except spit /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif. Llama's and donkeys will kick the snot out of any canine /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif.
 
I have a guy on video that raises Llamas telling a story of how he lost his baby Llamas to coyotes. I believe if I remember right he ended up loosing 5 out of 7 of his baby Llamas in a little over a week. All this was done during daylight hours while he was at work. His elderly neighber lady witnessed the entire thing.

I've also heard the same thing about Llama's protecting livestock from coyotes but this eposode makes me rethink the idea. I guess nothing is foolproof when dealing with coyotes. Pretty sharp critters.

Lots of people around here have the burros as well for this purpose. Can't say just how effective thy realy are either. I would suppose if kept in a fairly small pen with the sheep or cattle they may do good, but in a very large pasture I believe their effectiveness would be far less.

Byron
 
A farmer, NorWest of me a little ways. Had quite a few sheep killed by coyotes [Springtime]a couple yrs ago if I re-call. He bought a couple llama's. No more sheep loss.
 
They can work somewhat in small pastures until a coyote decides he really needs to eat a lamb, then the coyotes are too fast and too smart. They don't work at all in big pastures and open range.
 

I grew up on a beef cattle farm we had burro's one of the first coyotes I killed was with an old 30-30 out the window of the truck.The coyote was approx 20 yards or less from the donkey.

I think our donkey's chased cows and each other more than other animals.I have also heard LLama's are good for running off dogs, coyotes etc.Problem is a lot of Llama owners have hired me to kill coyotes that were killing Llama's.
 
People buy alpacas and things over here too to put with sheep to kill the foxes. Some people swear by them, others say its not worth it. I don't know either way, but I think that not much will stop a pack of dogs/coyotes from getting a feed
 
Goat ranching is a common industry in Missouri.
Predator callers can imagine the effect that 100 plus baby goats constantly, loudly crying, which sounds like classic distress sounds, would have on the neighborhood coyotes. Depredation is a major problem there and I had access to several goat opereations when I lived in the Ozarks. ALL of them used guard animals of one kind or another and sometimes , in desperation, they would use several with the idea if one kind was effective, one each of three different kinds would be three times as effective. Some of the ranches had llamas, donkeys, and guard dogs,(Great Pyrenes were most common although a few had Komondors and Akbars)all together in the compounds with the goats.
The problem was that the guard animals supposedly bond with the goats and become protective against predators. That works a little better if only one type of guard animal is introduced. If others are present they apparently don't bond and are not effective.
One ranch that had all three animals guarding the goats was losing 3-5 kids a week. When I went in and called for them the donkey and llama followed me from stand to stand. The llama would lie down a few feet away from me and the donkey hung back several yards and both watched. Seemed to be entertaining to them. I appreciated the llama, it would hear a coyotes approach through the hollow long before I did and I knew one was coming in from the llamas attention. Regardless the llama would just lie there and watch without taking any action at all.
I've read study results of research that APHIS conducted on guard animals and western sheep and the results are mixed. Apparently even the aggressive dogs are unable to cope with the coyotes strategy of having one coyote decoy the dogs to one side of a large flock while another coyote kills a lamb on the opposite side..
 
As a side note, my daughter got one of those miniature donkeys. She said she hasn't seen a snake around the barn and small pasture since she got the donkey. Used to have a lot of prairie rattlers around.
 
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