Fauci hearing demonstrates the utter nutcases we live amongst.

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Bowhntr6pt said:
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will be done about this. As a result, the American citizens will be victimized a second time by this guy.

To avoid getting banned from this site I'll just stop at that... I like it here and don't want to get tossed.
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The wife was all upset about this and I agree with her and everyone whom posted their view. And even those stating he can't take the fifth because of the pardon. And in actual true court room someone can in fact have a amnesty or pardon and still either refuse or invoke the 5th. The absolute worst that can happen is contempt or court/congress.

But this we still have to consider, everyone has the absolute right to invoke their Constitutional rights at ANY time.
Congress is NOT court, so yes even though they can attempt to compel testimony. They have limits, contempt of congress is about it. penalty $100,000.00 fine max and or up to 1 year in jail. Understand Congress cannot directly impose criminal penalties or final punishments itself for a contempt citation. It must go to criminal prosecution court.
So can he plead the 5th and get away with it yes.

And honestly I basically told the wife the same as @Bowhntr6pt stated. Here is the absolute worst I can think of. Congress takes a vote for contempt of Congress, say it passes, then it "must" be referred to the DOJ to impose the penalties in a federal trial, He maintains the 5th, he winds up with a contempt of court conviction is a penalty of $1000.00 or 6 months imprisonment. The problem is that even if congress votes yes it still requires a court to convict. Could he wind up being convicted of both contempt of Congress and court if he maintains his 5th amendment protects yes, Highly doubtful, the problem lies in the fact that the fifth is absolute. most likely the court would dismiss the case.

truly it's a dog and pony show to give the concept that they (Congress) is attempting to do something about his actions.
Do I think he should face the music? absolutely, but our system protects of "should" protect everyone. Had it not been in the public eye and him not being in his position yeah they would throw the book at him. But with the dog and pony show yeah they have to follow the rule to a T which means he walk scot free.
 
Sgt_Mike said:
truly it's a dog and pony show to give the concept that they (Congress) is attempting to do something about his actions.
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Totally agree. This is all Kabuki Theater. No one will be jailed, no one will be held accountable. If we look at it without rose colored glasses, congress can't afford to hold anyone accountable or jail anyone. Because if they did two thirds of them would go to jail as well.
As usual, it's a :poop: show....
 
Contempt of Congress unlikely due to vote passage requirements. Simple majority in house. But would require 60 in the senate because of needing to overcome legislative filibuster. In other words, the crime boss would have had to p____d off both parties. That isn't what happened, democrats used Fauci to defeat an incumbent Republican President. Which was part of the plan, as they direct USA to the 2030 great reset.
 
Sgt_Mike said:
The wife was all upset about this and I agree with her and everyone whom posted their view. And even those stating he can't take the fifth because of the pardon. And in actual true court room someone can in fact have a amnesty or pardon and still either refuse or invoke the 5th. The absolute worst that can happen is contempt or court/congress.

But this we still have to consider, everyone has the absolute right to invoke their Constitutional rights at ANY time.
Congress is NOT court, so yes even though they can attempt to compel testimony. They have limits, contempt of congress is about it. penalty $100,000.00 fine max and or up to 1 year in jail. Understand Congress cannot directly impose criminal penalties or final punishments itself for a contempt citation. It must go to criminal prosecution court.
So can he plead the 5th and get away with it yes.

And honestly I basically told the wife the same as @Bowhntr6pt stated. Here is the absolute worst I can think of. Congress takes a vote for contempt of Congress, say it passes, then it "must" be referred to the DOJ to impose the penalties in a federal trial, He maintains the 5th, he winds up with a contempt of court conviction is a penalty of $1000.00 or 6 months imprisonment. The problem is that even if congress votes yes it still requires a court to convict. Could he wind up being convicted of both contempt of Congress and court if he maintains his 5th amendment protects yes, Highly doubtful, the problem lies in the fact that the fifth is absolute. most likely the court would dismiss the case.

truly it's a dog and pony show to give the concept that they (Congress) is attempting to do something about his actions.
Do I think he should face the music? absolutely, but our system protects of "should" protect everyone. Had it not been in the public eye and him not being in his position yeah they would throw the book at him. But with the dog and pony show yeah they have to follow the rule to a T which means he walk scot free.
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Yep... a person can, and has the right, to stand mute... this is true.

Yep... all we as Americans are getting is theatrics from both sides... in the mean time, the common citizens breaking their asses every day to make ends meet get F'ed.
 
steve garrett said:
its flat out amazing and disheartening that we have soo many people who just believe such total horseshit. this morning I read a facebook post of a Deseret news article. The comment section about made me wanna pull my hair out. People saying Covid measures were totally justified. Fauci was a hero just doing his job. Shaming others as tin foil hatters.
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please appreciate, that especailly on profiles that are public - like news pages, etc - an overwhelming majority of those "people commenting" arent people.

they're bots. meant to try to sway public opinion.

100% pure bullsh!t.
100% pure propaganda.

but i just said the same thing twice

they're Profiles designed to look like real people, with stolen photo's and real "friends" that arent real profiles. hundreds of millions of them. nothing more, nothing less.

and god knows how many of them are FB native AI profiles meant to do nothing more than to "drive engagement" by posting absolutely made up flaming opposition views just to get you riled up enough to interact with a post you otherwise wouldnt.


theres an article from 2024 about it, imagine just how much this has expanded with AI driven profiles today.

now i'm not saying all of them are fake, or bot run, or whatever... i'm sure there's enough actual useful idiot's scattered in there just for some bits of truth... just giving some perspective when you see a pattern show up on these public pages.
 
Bowhntr6pt said:
Yep... a person can, and has the right, to stand mute... this is true.

Yep... all we as Americans are getting is theatrics from both sides... in the mean time, the common citizens breaking their asses every day to make ends meet get F'ed.
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What really pisses me off is the fact that we have the right to " right the system", but if that is tried or even talked about any attempt will get squashed.
Do nothing = nothing changes. To the feds that are in here, Im not implying anything, I am of sound mind and not on any meds and not suicidal.
 
Hey, the courts just said illegal can only be detained at the border. Any law left in this country? All those muslins that came to Spain were after an INCOME. One is quoted as saying can't make a living in Morocco. Anybody surprised? Italy is ready to go against EU open borders (finally).
 
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