? for you clay busters

Tim Neitzke

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What is the diff between ; skeet, trap, and sporting clays?

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Thanks in advance!
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Tim
 
Tim,

Don't know where you reside, but if your anywhere near the Detroit Metro area, go to Bald Mountain Shooting range, north of Rochester, and watch the guys shooting all three of those sports there. They have skeet, trap, and sporting clays there. I shot there when I lived down in the Detroit area.

Martyn
 
Dont worry about trap or skeet. Sporting clays is the game to play. Sporting clays offers a lot of variety of target presentations. Trap and skeet, is just the same old targets over and over and over again. Shotginning is a lot of fun! Try all games out and find the game you like best! Lee
 
I agree with skeetlee. If you can shoot sporting clays or 5-stand. 5-stand is almost like shooting sporting clays but it is shot from 5 stations similar to how a trap range stations are set up. If all you have available is skeet and trap, skeet is better for all around shotgun practice than trap is.
 
I also like to attend live pigeon shoots. Big MONEY to play those games. i have won some money playing. I now have a family and the only pigeon i shoot now are on the farm. It is a lot of fun, but usually its an invite only type of shoot. Lee
 
Trap and skeet are for ill tempered "old farts", who can't move well ..... or fast ..... whose eye sight isn't the greatest, so they have to have targets flying on the same flight paths in open areas. It can get as monotonous and boring as heck ......... really quick for me. LOL LOL

You can probably tell already, where my preferences lay. LOL

Sporting Clays is, unless you have a golf cart to ride, a game for a more vigorous shooter, who isn't annoyed when someone drops a shell on the ground, talks behind him or makes jokes as the shooters get ready to call for a target. Except during serious competition, sporting clays is a much more relaxed fun shooting game, more closely duplicating the shots most of us actually see in the fields, and marshes, any more.

But, it is more expensive. Around here a 50 bird round of sporting clays is $15 - $18. A round of 25 birds on a trap or skeet field is about $3.50, about 1/3 to 1/4 the cost, per bird, of sporting clays.

If you want to learn to shoot in the field, start on a skeet field, but once you start breaking 12 - 15, or so, birds out of 25, switch to sporting clays if you want to learn how to shoot well in the field or marsh.

I guess no one really answered the question about the differences in course layout, specifically.

Trap is shot with the trap in a fixed position in front of the shooters. The shooters fire five shots from each of five positions, which is laid out is sort of a "fan" behind the trap. The trap cycles so that the birds can come out flying on an angle to the left, straight, or to the right, or any place in between. The height of the targets above the ground is fixed, rising then dropping toward the ground as the target flys.

Skeet is also shot from a "fan" layout, but with two traps, one on each end of the "fan". The birds come out of each trap on a fixed flight path. The first trap is the "high house" which throws a target from a height above you at the first station, while the low house throws a bird from across the field flying toward and slightly to the left of you. The birds flight paths are supposed to cross in the center of the field. If you are quick, your longest shot should be somewhere around 21 yards. Shooters rotate around the "fan" to put the targets at different angles and distances, with the last station in the front, center of the fan to take one bird from the high house and one from the low house.

Sporting clays is shot much like an archery field course, where traps are set up, often along the edge or in the middle of a woods and shooters move from shooting station to shooting station. Normally, shooters will shoot 4 to 6 shots at each station. The birds may be thrown as singles, true pairs (two birds thrown at same time), following pairs (two birds thrown from same trap, one quickly after the other), or report pairs (second bird thrown when the first bird is shot at). The courses are usually set up differently every month, to give new types of targets, angles, speeds, etc.

There are several types of targets used on sporting clays courses. The most common is the standard 108mm clay target, but they also have a 90mm and a 60mm target, which are usually faster, harder to see and to hit. Then they have the "rabbit" target which rolls and jumps across the surface of the ground and a battue, which is a disk which is thrown like a standard 108mm target, but being thin, is hard to see. But, as it flies, it turns, showing more of itself and heads for the ground, giving you a quick shot at a rapidly descending target.

The variety of targets and target presentations makes shooting sporting clays more interesting than the other two clay target games.
 
One nice thing about shooting sporting clays is that you don't need a special gun for it. Any field gun will suffice. Obviously, the more serious sporting clays shooters will be using either an over and under, or a semi auto, but even pump guns can be effective. I usually shoot less than 100 birds per month, from February through August, when the hunting seasons are out, but I still manage to shoot between 80 and 90 percent with my pumpgun.

Here's what I use, a 3.5" BPS12, pumpgun, covered with a thick coat of duck boat paint.

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Sporting Clays can be rather classy in some places. I have never seen a Rolls Royce at a skeet or trap range but saw 3 in a Sporting Clays parking lot in SC.

Jack
 
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Trap and skeet are for ill tempered "old farts", who can't move well ..... or fast ..... whose eye sight isn't the greatest, so they have to have targets flying on the same flight paths in open areas.



EXCUSE ME! I'm "ill tempered" only part of the time!

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Maybe right on RR's, but you sure will see lots of $0.5-$1.5 million motorhomes at the big trapshoots! Try San Antonio or Tucson in the spring.
 
WOW !

Some good info here. Thanks guys!

I shoot with my hunting buddy a bit. Just some back yard stuff. We have a 15' tower with a cheap thrower on it. Make's for good practice for the pheasants and geese we hunt. Just some good old fun on a hot summer day too! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif

I wish we could hunt doves here, they look like lots of fun.
Dang anti's have gotten our season voted down twice. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/angry-smiley-055.gif

My shotgun collection is nice. I think anyway.
11-87 12ga 3" upland
11-87 12 ga 3.5 camo
525 12 ga 3" O/U
 
I believe this one should do it. You can get cheaper throwers, but Do All is considered one of the better "low priced" throwers. Basically, you need a trap which you can turn on it's side and which has a clip to hold the target in position while it's cocked and ready to be tripped. And, of course, you need the "rabbit" targets. They are heavier in construction to withstand the forces of bouncing across the ground and don't have a hollow interior like conventional clay targets.

You might want to check to make certain that this one will throw the rabbit's, though. Double armed traps are available which can be used to throw 2 birds, a rabbit and a bird, or two rabbits.

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I have competed at sporting clays for about 5 years now. I have shot at a lot of the elite courses around the states. It isnt a cheap game to play thats for sure! I like shooting different targets over different terrain and places. I have made the Illinois state team a couple of times and have had some minor sucsess with the game. I shoot an old browning over under that has seen a bazillon shells fired through it, and i love wupin up on those high class fellas with those $15,000 + shotguns. Maybe Im just jealous, If i had the resorces i might have one of those high dollar guns myself. Sporting clays is a great game. Give it a try if you have never played. Lee
 
I have shot all clays games and don't let anyone kid you about what is easier. If your going to be competitive at any of them, be prepared to shoot a lot under all conditions. I have seen Sporting clays courses that a Master Class shooter would be doing great to get 85 percent. Some trap tournaments involve 500 targets to get you to the first shoot-off. I like sporting clays best since it's closer to the type of bird hunting I do, but they can all be fun with the right companions.
 
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