Ford Repair Or?

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and while the cummings is a great motor,the Dodge truck itself has problems.But thats just my experiance.



I had a 99 and now a 05 dodge ram 2500, Its by far the best truck I have ever had. It just eats up interstate with my 24' gooseneck on the back. Put 145,000 on the first one, now 36k on the second, Lease is up on it in 3 months, I might have to keep this one as they arnt offering anything really good on turn in right now /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

The options on the new ones are awesome, most of which my local dealer orders on the trucks because everybody wants them anyhow. Power sliding rear window, Sirius radio, blue tooth that handles 4 different phones/accories, 6 speed auto tranny with manual down shift, plus jake brake standard, New cummins is now at 350 or 360 HP, ahh list goes on, new stain proof interiors, fold flat storage, which mine has, and more.

You dont have to hold your nose and buy a dodge, give it a honest look, buy one, drive it for awhile, you will come to see they make a good truck. Ever wonder why you dont see used ones with low miles at the dealers often? You dont around here.
 
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MI VHNTR, I understand lots of people make their living from Ford and etc. etc. etc. I have a relative who's an executive in Ford's design division, and probably many others more distant relatives otherwise feeding their family from Ford's coffers. I have lots of extended family in Michigan.

All I know is, I handle vehicles from +/- 5 years old to +/- 12 years old all year long. I've owned many Fords, among other domestics. The quality just simply doesn't compare to imports of similar vintage. At all. Doesn't even begin to. After 70k miles and 5 years, a Ford is - - more often than not - - flat wrung out, and starting to nickle and dime it's owner to death. Squeaks, creaks, rattles, vibrations, parts wearing out, breaking down, $100 here, $150 there... The other big 3 aren't much better. A Toyota or Honda of similar miles and age is tight as a drum and just getting broken in. It's a fact. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I've been elbow deep in cars for 10 years + now, and I just can't recommend them to anyone. No bious, I wish it wasn't true, but I'll steer people off them every time.



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif My Ranger ('04) just turned over 72,000, hope mine will be different and run for another 172,000. So far.....it has been a good truck, but, ask me that after another 72,000. Time will tell. I don't think I will ever buy another Ford though just because of the reasons Dawg stated above, I agree with that assessment.
 
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MI VHNTR, I understand lots of people make their living from Ford and etc. etc. etc. I have a relative who's an executive in Ford's design division, and probably many others more distant relatives otherwise feeding their family from Ford's coffers. I have lots of extended family in Michigan.

All I know is, I handle vehicles from +/- 5 years old to +/- 12 years old all year long. I've owned many Fords, among other domestics. The quality just simply doesn't compare to imports of similar vintage. At all. Doesn't even begin to. After 70k miles and 5 years, a Ford is - - more often than not - - flat wrung out, and starting to nickle and dime it's owner to death. Squeaks, creaks, rattles, vibrations, parts wearing out, breaking down, $100 here, $150 there... The other big 3 aren't much better. A Toyota or Honda of similar miles and age is tight as a drum and just getting broken in. It's a fact. I wish it wasn't true, but it is. I've been elbow deep in cars for 10 years + now, and I just can't recommend them to anyone. No bious, I wish it wasn't true, but I'll steer people off them every time.



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I am not BIASED and I'll call BS when I see it and your statement is a pile of bovine excrement.

First comes the patronizing remarks about family members in the US auto industry. Next, the remarks about the USA's Big Three so-called lack of build quality. Then, the real agenda comes out. It's the mindless regurgitation of the so-called Toyota/Honda build quality. Lastly, the final revelation, the "no bious" remark that is supported by the self-declared facts of someone that deals with vehicles that are "+/- 5 years old to +/- 12 years old."


It is apparent that there are others in the industry that have VERY different views on the subject. One is actually based on facts, not narrow-minded opinions. This article discusses the quality and reliability of some Toyota vehicles. It contains information on some Ford vehicles too.

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/16/toyota-hit-hard-by-new-consumer-reports-predicted-reliability-ra/

Now there's a dilemma for you. Two very different views about the perceived build quality of a brand of vehicles. One party sure appears to have an agenda, the other does not. Which one does a person believe?

The point is, any company that builds anything can make a bad product at some point. However, to broadly categorize all USA made vehicles with such an asinine statement: "After 70k miles and 5 years, a Ford is - - more often than not - - flat wrung out, and starting to nickle and dime it's owner to death. Squeaks, creaks, rattles, vibrations, parts wearing out, breaking down, $100 here, $150 there... The other big 3 aren't much better." is just plain wrong.

One more thing and it concerns the products/services that you sell. To use your own words: "I just can't recommend them to anyone. I'll steer people off them every time." MI VHNTR

 
My GF has an 02 Camery, it has a knock in the front end NOBODY can figure out, and the heater cant seem to blow air on the floorboards, because the POS door to route the air thing-a-ma-jigger wont stay in place with the connector rod thingy. My ex's forign job had the same problem. They all can make junk, and its all over priced.
 
I used to be a Nissan man. Everything had to be a Nissan, very reliable vehicles. Well when I was looking for a truck a few years ago, I couldn't find a used one that I could afford. I looked and finally found a 2000 F-150. Plain Jane, 4.2 6 cylinder, rubber floor, stick shift and 2 wheel drive. It had 32,000 miles on it, the guy who had it before had it maintained at the dealership, nice truck. I've got 80,000 miles on it now. One problem that ended up costing me about 350.00 to fix. I have a 2004 Explorer now that my wife drives. I maintain my vehicles pretty good, I think that is the big thing. Really I think nowadays they are all pretty much dependable. Yeah your going to get a lemon once in a while, but what product doesn't.
 
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They all can make junk, and its all over priced.



Now there is a statement I can give an AMEN to!

If I was going to buy a truck to ride I would probably get a jap truck. To me they are more like cars than trucks. Unfortunately I need to so more then ride and I will stay with the Chevys, Fords and Dodges. I've owned all three and never had any major problems with any of them.

Toughest vehicle I ever owned was a Chevy Astro Van with a 4.3. It had 275,000 miles on it when I "DROVE" it into the junk yard. Only reason I replaced it was I found a super deal on a replacement.
 
My wife flipped her '98 Explorer on it's side just before Christmas. Since it had 129,000 miles on it, the insurance co. totaled it. Her cousin was needing a nicer vehicle, so he bought it from the insurance co.. He put a couple of doors on it and done a little body work and is now driving it. I guess I need to call him and tell him what a piece junk it is (since it is over 5 years old and 70k miles) even though my wife had zero trouble with it other than maintanance items such as shocks, brakes, tires, etc..

It had close to 90k on it when we took it to Savannah GA and back. Man all of those squeeks and rattles about drove me nuts...Oh wait...that was the kids in the back seat. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
My 95 Ford with 190,000 on it is just as nice as when new. I expect to put at least another 150,000 on it with no problem. Aside from normal wear items it has never had a single problem.

Jack
 
Wow in 2 pages we have gone from Ford to horses & boobs. At $50,000 you would think a truck should be sound and reliable. Not needing a large tow vehicle I choose a Nissan and a Honda car.
A good horse is not cheap anymore either, but I might choose a mule anyway.
I still like an American woman but there is no way to tell what that will cost or if she will be reliable.
 
Seems as if there are quite a few differing opinions. Perhaps one way to resolve the discussion would be to poll some mechanics. Not mechanics who work at dealerships, but those that work on everything being made. Of the several I know, to a man they all say Fords are the WORST when it comes to reliability and quality, and have design flaws that are incredibly stupid. They also say Fords are the most difficult to work on and that drives up labor. They also have the most expensive replacement parts of the domestic trucks. It's no coincidence that none happen to own Fords either. Not trying to be a putz here, as I said before I've been a Ford man since I was in diapers. Those days are over when I drive the three I have into the ground, and at the rate I'm going it won't be long. That is if I'm not broke first. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 
I have a 99 FORD F-350 7.3 Turbo diesel 300,000 on it and besides 1 problem with actuating door on the AC it's never seen a shop. looks and runs like new!!
just put on my 4th set of BF Goodrich's last month,


And she isn't know grocery getter, she spends more time off road then on hard top

Ford makes the Biggest toughest truck around , /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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+1 for Hoosier16.. I've driven Ford police cars for the past 28 years. I will put between 50 and 60 thousand severe use miles per year on my cars. This includes driving on interstates to back gravel roads at all kinds of speeds. In the years I've been driving them I've NEVER lost an engine or a transmission, or a rearend in any of my cars. I've always serviced my cars reqularly including changing my transmission fluid and filters at 50 to 60 thousand miles. While I've seen others on our department lose their transmissions, I can only think of one engine thats been replaced on any of our Ford cars.
In the early 90's when Ford began using the modular 4.6 liter engines in our cars I notice a big improvement in the overall quality of the cars. We don't normally begin having problems with them nickel and diming until about 110,000 miles so long as scheduled maintainance is done. Prior to that nickel and diming would begin at about 60,000 miles.
Now I drive a Ford F-150 Supercrew. I've put 65,000 miles on it and have only changed the oil and serviced the transmission. I just put new tires on it at 60,000 and put all new brakes and rotors on it at 63,000 miles. There's not a thing wrong with this truck. It doesn't leak air or water, and all the power accessories work as they are supposed to. Just like the Crown Victorias I've driven for many years.
 
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