German Shepard Ventures into Coyote Den - Wow!

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I had a pair of Great Pyrrenese that were hell on coyotes, ofcourse my male wieghed 184lbs and had a mane around its neck that I could barely wrap my arms around. If he caught'em they were stone dead.

Chupa



If I remember correctly, some time in the liniage of the Great Pyrrenese, they were bread for similiar purposes. I have seen many ranchers that have this breed exactly for that reason. They are one domestic breed that can kill coyotes lickity split. The Airdale Terrier is another that comes to mind. Most domestic dogs are out gunned by a Coyote that makes his living dealing out death.



Since I own a Great Pyrenees, not to hijack the thread but I thought I would chime in.. They were developed by the Basque people to protect their flocks from predation by bears and wolves. The dogs have been used for this purpose for over a thousand years. This is why Great Pyrenees, although bred to work on bears and wolves, are equally effective on wild and feral dogs as well as coyotes which are an increasing problem to stockman. My la bete (translation "the beast") is not not afraid of any man or beast her size or larger.
 
Genesis, what's your buddies name? Do you know who he got the dog from? Not a common thing for a jagd to kill them REGULARLY with EASE.........

Have heard of one dog in particular that killed a couple, but definitely not easily.
 
I have a friend who raises sheep and he uses pyrenese. He says that if the dog can get the coyote in the sheep he will kill it about 80% of the time.Said he hasn't lost any sheep to coyotes since he started putting the dogs with them.
 
The guard dog may help with coyotes and maybe working for your friend now and maybe forever, but if coyotes truly want those sheep they will get them. We have shot many coyotes in sheep pastures with the guard dogs in them and have countless kill complaints where dogs, lama's, donkeys or whatever have been used. They can work great for awhile and then it all goes to crap!! One time comes to mind very clearly was having to let the lama get out of the way so I could shoot the coyote on the carcass from the airplane. Another was with the guard dogs on one end of the pasture and the coyotes with dead sheep on the other.

Certain coyotes will not risk a confrontation and certain ones do. If you ever get a chance to watch a coyote read a decoy dog alot of this will make more sense. Some coyotes are very agressive and show no fear from the get go and could care less if i am there, some will lay out at 400 yards and watch the dog forever if he comes toward them they hide in waiting if the dog turns and runs away you can see the confidence in the coyote swell and he will become more agressive. Some get run off by the dog once and never show up again leaving the den site. Some coyotes are willing to risk it's life on the confrontation with the dog while most will fight and run and live to do it another day. Survival instincts!!! If they feel a chance of losing the battle is happening the survivor mode usually kicks in.

You will also hear from time to time about a guard dog that developes a taste for mutton. Not good!! I will also average about 2-3 dogs, whether they be big or small that either get killed or tore up from coyotes on ranches. A free roamin dog especially this time of year usually gets his butt kicked.

There are some dogs especially the greyhounders here have that do kill coyotes but from time to time they too run into a coyote that even a multiple dog on coyote can't get it done and the coyote will put a hurt on the dogs. These kill dogs one on one win alot of battles but sooner or later the coyotes will win.

If it was as simple as a couple of dogs guarding the sheep and all is well I wouldn't or none of the guys doing the same job as myself would have jobs. Guard dogs help along with all the other stuff but none of it works 100 percent.
 
This is just another example of why, every time I go out the door to my house, I have my Kimber .45 or Taurus PT-1911 on my side. There are too many chances of something going wrong. Yes, even in Wal-Mart!!

Sarge
 
was the german sheppard a female or male???? my neighbours dog has dug up fox dens before to get a hold of the babies, she doesnt hurt them, she just hears the whimmpers and go after them. She did the same thing to a litter of cats in a barn, but she got attacked by 5 cats (all had litters I think)

kinda weird how she goes after young like its her own, She must of had a bad experience with her own pups at one time.
 
I have a 70-85lb Shepard and I don't think he could take on coyote. He has ran off a few, but he seems to know when to turn and run to safety(me). I have seen some gaurd dog's torn apart by coyotes its not a pretty site. I have also seen kill dogs at work and they dont always win either.
 
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I had a pair of Great Pyrrenese that were hell on coyotes, ofcourse my male wieghed 184lbs and had a mane around its neck that I could barely wrap my arms around. If he caught'em they were stone dead.

Chupa



If I remember correctly, some time in the liniage of the Great Pyrrenese, they were bread for similiar purposes. I have seen many ranchers that have this breed exactly for that reason. They are one domestic breed that can kill coyotes lickity split. The Airdale Terrier is another that comes to mind. Most domestic dogs are out gunned by a Coyote that makes his living dealing out death.



I may have told this story on here, and can't remember but I have seen first hand several large Great Pyrenese guarding sheep and I don't think the'd have a problem with many coyotes if they could catch them. Two years ago, on opening day of Archery, my hunting rig broke down and my partner and I hunted from his little suzuki POS (a geo metro looking car). We were driving down a well used forest road when we came up to a sheep camp right on the side. We had to stop for the sheep and all of a sudden the [beeep] dogs went nuts and came after us. I could hear Jose screaming something in spanish trying to get his dogs back under control, and I remeber telling my buddy to hit the [beeep] sheep if necessary to get us out of there because there was one dog that seemed to be taller than the little POS we were in, with the biggest set of teeth I've ever seen, biting at my window. His teeth were clanking off of the glass and I knew I was about to have him in my lap. Luckily Jose managed to get the sheep off the road and we got out of there before that SOB came through my window, but a change of pants was nearly necessary!
 


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