Getting a bit frustrated

RSG223 said:
Tell me why?
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Very much in agreement with jmeddy... About the only time I will challenge is when I have one actually screaming back at my calls. Even then, it is a last resort when nothing else seems to get them to commit. I dare say that challenge barks/howls are probably the lowest percentage calls of all vocals that I throw out.
 
Dew Claw said:
Looks like I'm not the only one. I don't see them as out there running the buddy system unless it's family. I will throw vocals out there to talk to them when they are howling around me just for fun but never had any come in. I've had them close and tried vocals but they disappear.
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To be clear, i am just talking challenge/aggressive vocals. I kill more with vocals than prey distress—in the neighborhood of 3 to 1.
 
jmeddy said:
In my experiences unless l am dealing with the bad ass of the neighborhood every other coyote retreats when they hear challenges. I had so many negative encounters that l never use them anymore electric or mouth calls.
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That's very interesting and I appreciate the heads up. This being my second season with an e-caller and coyote sounds I have been using the male and the female challenge howl a lot! I will save them and use them like @hunt0168 mentions.
 
Anyway, thanks for the thoughts and suggestions everyone! I guess I just have to put the time in to figure it out with this new way of calling.
 
Dig into those FoxPro Podcasts RSG... Especially the ones with Torry Cook where he and Jon Collins do the breakdowns for each season. Right now would be the Breeding season breakdowns and I think they have done 3 of them. They also always mention the actual sound files and the sequences they use them. The latest is a breeding season podcast with Big Al Morris. Big Al has my respect for his accomplishments, and he's got a big personality, but you'll get more useful information from the Torry Cook episodes. Just my opinion anyway.

Stick with it buddy. You already know the hardest parts of the game from your previous years of calling. Adding vocals correctly into your sequences at the right time should only add to your success. You'll be stacking them soon!
 
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