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Orkan,

We now know there are at least 49 guides in your area. (The forty you know who don't have websites plus the nine who do.) I'm just curious as to how you can reasonably make the statement that the out of state pheasant hunters provide very little economic benefit to the area when by your own figures they provide income for at least forty-nine guides and probably a good number of other people. In a small town, that nothing to sneeze at. Also, you claim that the owners of the farms, motels, gas stations, etc. are the only ones who see any profits. Even if that were the case, do you think that money goes into a black hole never to be seen again? Some of that money most definitely finds its way back into the community.
 
If ANY of the locals do buisness with him (doubtful) then he benefits in turn from the $ the hunters spend in his community,THATS A FACT.As for you guys that only post to [beeep] about the thread if its so awful DONT READ IT!So you know 40+ pheasant outfitters?If you have such prime bird ground why havnt you leased your land out for a couple months a year to one of the better ones and make enough money to pay all the tax's and bills the farm has for an entire year?Whats the use of having CRP if you arnt going to prostitute the unfarmed land even more?You could be off hunting yotes somewhere far away all phesant season of the $ the evil people from far off lands would pay to walk through the field you are being paid not to farm and shoot a few birds that belong to the public of your state,sounds like a great deal for your family,hell of alot better than sitting in front of your PC all season whining about them.10 pages of people telling you how ignorant you are to your surroundings?Thats something to be proud of!!!
 
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We don't lease our land out because WE WANT SOMEPLACE TO HUNT! lol

You think that a few guides and a few hotels and such making money equates to the rest of the community profiting? There are very few business' that profit due to pheasant season.

The majority of jobs in huron are INDUSTRIAL jobs. Unless they've found a way to manufacture pheasants... I'm not sure how they benefit.

Are you honestly so ignorant that you think the majority of our jobs are spawned as a result of pheasant hunting? Manufacturing facilities and meat processing plants account for the majority of our jobs. The rest are filled in by the hundreds of other business' that have NOTHING to do with hunting.

While I don't deny that a few of those business owners that DO benefit from pheasant season, inevitably spend some of their money they rake off the NR's locally... MOST OF IT goes somewhere else.

If you lived here, and had to go to another town every time you wanted something... YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS.
 
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Don't forget Don Jaun's they make a killing! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Thats why I excluded the bars. hehe They absolutely RAPE these NR's. Don Juans probably does 90% of his business during pheasant season.

Does Don Juans enhance the rest of the cavour community? HELL NO!

How do I know this... because I talk to Don every few weeks when I stop in there for a beer when coyote hunting in the cavour area.

Every year after pheasant season he does some upgrades to the bar. Where does he get the supplies? MITCHELL. Not cavour, huron, wolsey or anyplace near us. MITCHELL. Why? Because they have a menards there and it is cheaper.

Same goes for everybody. They shop in mitchell, watertown, or sioux falls. Aberdeen too.

Small town south dakota does NOT benefit from the NR's like you guys think.
 
At least 49 familys in your community making a good income off them,+ the land owners who lease their land out to those outfitters+ hotel owners and the people who work there,resturaunts,gas stations,sporting goods store,ect ect.If you dont think their money trickles down through every corner of your community you are WRONG.Now SOME of those people do buisness with YOU,cmon do the math you cant deny what they do for your community despite the hate you have for them because a few of them are slobs who dont respect your property.If you want to complain to someone do it to all those outfitters and hotel owners who cater to them and make sure they come back year after year,Im sure they will be very interested in your "theroys".
 
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Now SOME of those people do buisness with YOU,



This is a prime example of why this thread exists in the first place.

YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE do you? You talk about that which you have NO IDEA.

Name ONE business that benefits from pheasant hunting that does business with me.
 
Orkan,

Seems like your anger should be directed at your fellow small town South Dakotans, who makes a bunch of money off of nonresident outsiders and then refuse to spend it in their own communities.
 
Maybe nobody there can STAND to do buisness with you,thats the only way you wouldnt profit from a trickle down economy in your community.Maybe you are just pissed that you dont directly make a killing off them like some of your neighbors are doing,maybe you should get into the guiding buisness and then you wont have any problem with them hunting on your land.
 
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Wow nonya... you sure are full of asumptions arent you.

Too bad.

If you stuck with the facts and not with the speculation, we may agree on certain topics. Like pheasant hunting and whether .50cal's should be banned for hunting.

Yeah, I remember that thread. You talk about me being against hunters... but you don't see me rallying to ban a firearm. All I am asking is that they not tresspass.

The fact that you don't correlate thousands of non residents to the escallation of tresspassing shows you don't have a clue.
 
Relevant information.

http://www.sdgfp.info/Wildlife/hunting/Pheasant/SocialAspects.htm

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About 80,000 resident and 90,000 nonresident pheasant hunters spend in excess of $100 million annually on their sport. Consequently, the impact of pheasant hunting touches more than outdoorsmen and women.





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Farmers and ranchers continue to search for alternate sources of revenue to supplement traditional farming income. Charging for hunting access is one such alternative. GFP has not attempted to either promote or discourage charging access fees for hunting. This is free enterprise, and free enterprise system is the economic foundation of this country.

However, GFP recognizes and will ardently defend the fact of law that wild animals in this country are owned by no one. Rather they are held in trust by the people for the people. In addition, GFP is very serious about the state of South Dakota’s responsibility to manage wild animal populations that reside within the borders of our state. Consequently, as long as the legal ownership designation of wildlife is not eroded, GFP will not attempt to restrict farmers and ranchers from generating income for hunting access to their property.

GFP will, however, work to develop all available opportunities to enhance and preserve free access to hunting opportunities. If hunting is a sport reserved only for the wealthy, then its appeal to the non-hunting population will diminish and its support from the general population will dissolve. The loss of public support would result in a weakened position to defend against special interest groups whose mission it is to make hunting an illegal practice.





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Road hunting is one of the most contentious hunting issues for many rural residents. In turn, many hunters covet road hunting as the one guaranteed option of having access to public hunting opportunities.

As described above, GFP is an advocate for promoting free hunting access opportunities to the general public. However, the behavior of some hunters while hunting road rights-of-way can make the practice difficult to defend. Rural residents have a legitimate basis to be critical of the behavior of some road hunters that shoot close to their homes and livestock.

GFP and the state legislature have taken action to lessen conflicts between road hunters and rural property owners. State laws providing buffers around farmsteads and livestock where hunting is prohibited are in place and are taken very seriously by state Conservation Officers. If compliance with these regulations were improved, most conflicts between rural residents and hunters that like to hunt road rights-of-way would be eliminated.

GFP will continue to support the rights of hunters to legally hunt road rights-of-way as long as state law permits the practice. In addition, GFP will continue to vehemently enforce laws intended to protect rural residents and their property from the unlawful hunting of road rights-of-way.





https://www.sdgfp.info/Wildlife/Economics/Huntingeconomics.htm

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Some hunting economic facts:

Hunters spend $605 million on hunting dogs, far more than the $513 million skiers spend on ski equipment.
Each year hunters spend more on food for hunting trips than Americans spend on Domino’s Pizza.
Hunters support more than 500,000 jobs.
The $2.4 billion in annual federal income-tax money generated by hunters’ spending would be enough to cover the annual paychecks of 100,000 U.S. troops.

It is estimated that these hunters bring almost $13 million in state sales and motor fuel taxes to South Dakota. There are over 5,500 jobs related to hunting activities resulting in over $100 million in salaries and wages.

Pheasant Economics by county in 2006

https://www.sdgfp.info/Wildlife/hunting/Pheasant/Economics.htm

Non-residents pumped $69. million into Beadle County last year (where Huron is I believe).


 
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Maybe you don't make money off the NRs, but that's by your CHOICE. You CHOOSE to not accept money for them to hunt your land. You may not own a business that directly profits from hunters, but you DO own land that you could EASILY make money from. What you do with your land is up to YOU. Apparently you refuse to make money off your land in this manor for personal reasons. Fine, that's your choice.

So if you're missing out on the $$$, don't whine too loud. Nobody cares.
 
Yellowhammer... your information is YEARS out of date.

Check out any of the local news stories... there are more NR hunters than resident. Also, your source is HIGHLY biased... as they make a TON of money off hunting. Being their primary source of revenue.

Notice the STATE sells hunting advertisements. Guides too... But nobody else does.

... oh... and I'm "whining" about them tresspassing every year. Not because I don't make money off them. I could care less about that. Apparently some of you have trouble reading.
 
According to Orkan, there are 20,000 non resident hunters in his area right now, if thats true...

20,000 NR hunting fee's in Huron at $114 each : $2,280,000

80,000 room rentals(20,000 hunters with average of 4 nights stay) at $60 per night= $4,800,000

20,000 NR hunters needing three meals per day thru 4 days= 240,000 with an average of $8.50 per meal=$2,040,000 to cafe owners, bar owners, and local restraunts, grocery stores.

Gas stations selling fuel, sodas, beer, ice, snacks, cigs, chew, lottery tickets, coffee, shells, etc...you get my point= 20,000 new customers=$no idea but a ton of additional revenue...

Having a idiot complain of an additional $9,120,000 million dollars poor into the Huron economy alone over four weeks time....Priceless. "There are somethings in Huron money cant buy, being a idiot isnt one of them. That comes naturally"

Not having to pay a state income tax in South Dakota due to this added revenue....Fortunate!, "there are some things in Huron you have to pay taxes on, but state income taxes are not one of them"
 
Come on in to huron and talk to people.

Maybe then you people will understand the TRUTH... rather than what you THINK.
 
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