Hard to hide my vehicle, what do I need to do?

Originally Posted By: Chupathingy If you jump out before the Flux Capacitor kicks in, you can hide it in 1985
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Chupa

That is great. Your comic relief is always welcome. Made me laugh a couple different times just thinking about it.


I figured there were a lot of guys here in the same boat as me. I did think about the camo netting and I might still give it a try. I take my ATV when I can, it's a whole lot easier to hide then my vehicle. Heck I couldn't remember exactly which evergreen I put it behind yesterday.
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When you hunt coyotes for going on a year and a half and still haven't seen one, you really have to start questioning what your doing wrong and what the next thing is you have to change.
 
Originally Posted By: tripod3Call from the truck. It works.

I rarely do, but I agree with you it does work. I have killed more fox from the truck than coyote, but I have killed a number of coyote.
 
Really I never thought you would be able to kill a coyote from your truck by calling them. That surprises me but nice to know. If I ever have a night with snow on the ground and a full moon, the white paint might come in handy.
 
I have parked the Pickup 1/4 mile away never been a problem, ATV in a low spot or ditch near hunting area, no problems, I have checked new areas and called from Pickup on road to see if any response and they will come to within 100 yards of pickup sometimes before they stop to look around. This is why I always have a gun ready for these lucky dumb yotes.
 
Originally Posted By: Irish_80 When you hunt coyotes for going on a year and a half and still haven't seen one, you really have to start questioning what your doing wrong and what the next thing is you have to change.

Hmmm.... that's a long time. You have coyotes, I assume? What calls are you using, for how long, and how loud? Have you called anything in?
 
Yeah we we've got coyotes and a pretty good population I think. I can go out and locate at night and I can get them to respond pretty much anywhere I go, lots of tracks and scat plus I see them out driving around. I don't think hardly anyone calls around here or runs dogs so they shouldn't be over pressured or call wise other then the ones I know I've made smarter over the last year. I was using a homemade e-caller that sounded like junk and a couple hand calls. I just got the Flextone e-caller and it sounds much better and now I can get the coyotes to respond to me in the daytime while on stand. I start low with mouse and then move on to a distress then work the volume up the longer I'm on stand. I end with pup in distress or pup screams. I've just started to try and call them with coyote vocals. I'm usually on stand anywhere from 15-30 minutes. I work hard on keeping the wind in my face and stay hidden. I've only been out twice with my new caller so I hope that helps out. When I first started I saw one about 500 yards out going across a field, I don't think he was coming in because of my call I think I just happened to see him. I know a caller isn't the magic answer but good sounds can't hurt. Yeah it's surprising I'm still at it.
 
I got a piece of Camo Artillery Netting from the Army/Navy surplus store and cover the truck and or trailer i pull sometimes with it. It works great even when I go duck or goose hunting also. Besides I think I paid something like $15 bucks for a large piece. You may have to hang it outside a bit to get the stored up smell out. but that's all.
 
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Originally Posted By: Irish_80Yeah we we've got coyotes and a pretty good population I think. BIG SNIP

That all sounds good to me- dunno what the problem is, although I have a couple of ideas to fly by you just for fun.

1) I have areas where there will be coyotes at night, but not when I'm calling. During the night, they hunt the open grasslands but come daytime, they hole up in cover. I call cover most of the time (although I've gotten some off the grasslands, too). Just be sure that you hunt where the coyotes are when you're calling. I hope that's not an obvious and stupid suggestion...
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2) I called my first coyote (35 years ago) by absolutely blasting on the call. I'd called gently and normally for about 15-20 minutes and I was mad because nothing had come in (for the 100th time), so I just started blowing on the #$#@%# call as hard as I could, constantly, non-stop. A minute later, I noticed a streak of dust out on the prairie. It was moving my way. I kept calling and before long I spotted a coyote just absolutely hauling toward me. Long story short, I missed him and he hauled back the same way he'd come. But, my first success was thanks to doing something completely different.

3) I know that in the early days, I made way too complicated setups. I'd setup on top of a mesa where I thought the call would carry. Well, great, but that means that the coyotes would usually have to climb. Animals conserve energy and they don't climb on top of the mesa unless there's prey up there (which there wasn't). I used to hike up canyons and call there. Again, no coyotes- they're out in the transitional habitat. Very hard to describe but over time, with lots of observation, I got better at figuring out where the coyotes were when I was calling. Early on, I hid myself way too much, which also limited my mobility and visibility. With something like a ghillie suit or even just camo netting draped like a poncho, you can sit almost right out in the open, esp with E-caller chirping away 50-75 yds away.

4) There's nothing like having an experienced and successful caller go along with you.

5) It may also be well worth your time to go someplace else- someplace easy- just to verify that your calls and technique can indeed work. Calling up here in NE New Mexico is much tougher (or different, at least) than in S NM and calling down there taught me some lessons that I brought back to here. You oughta be close to KS and NE- have you gone to different terrain over there?

Hope that helps somewhat- I'm sure you've gotten tons of advice.
 
That is great advise and I sure will try it. The one thing that you said that really has me thinking is the hiding to well. I try and bury myself where I won't be seen and sometimes I can't see worth a darn. I think I might just be trying to dang hard and I need to have some fun with it. Now don't get me wrong I have a blast when I go out but even seeing one would be even better. I'm real close to NE and KS, I should set up a hunt sometime just to see what all the fuss is about.
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I've just started getting in to the thick stuff with a shotgun so I hope that helps out some. I really appreciate all the help you guys are giving me.
 
If you are into the thick stuff you might want to call downwind or some angle of downwind. The coyotes will move downwind of the sound of the call and they'll just circle behind you through the brush and you won't see them. That's was a problem I had early on.
 
A year or two ago we tried to get a farmland hunting forum or sub forum that would of addresses many of the issues you are facing. Didn't happen
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. What works in the west and in Texas will leave you with an empty bag here in Iowa. Do to lack of calling success most predator hunting is done from a truck here in Iowa and any coyotes are constantly chased by trucks. IMO you have 4 options:

#1) Always park at a farmstead or acreage and walk to your stand.
#2) Bicycle
#3) ATV or dual sport motorcycle you can hide in the roadside ditches.
#4) My favorite, dump the truck and walk from stand to stand. Heck, it only takes 15 minutes to walk a mile. If hunting alone I'll take off walking and call the wife for a ride back to the truck or home. If with a partner we will park a truck at an ending location.

You do not however need to, or want to for that matter, walk far off the road. Anywhere from 1 to 100 yards is far enough. Also, as already stated coyotes will use cover to get down wind. Call cross wind and give him a fence row, creek or something to give him a path. Have a shooter there to ambush him. Or call dead downwind but make sure there is cover for the yote to come in along.

Example: You have permission to hunt a brushy draw on the west side of a north/south gravel road. This draw has a creek, brush or fence row (i.e. pathway for the coyote to try to get down wind) that runs from the draw to the road. Wind is outta the north. Your caller (a 2nd hunter or an e-caller) should set up north of the pathway right off the road a couple hundred yards or as far as your e-caller remote will reach if hunting alone. It doesn't hurt and actually helps if there is a hill or small rise between the caller and the creek. Go to callin. If a coyote comes it will be right down the pathway.

CB
 
Everyone great advise and I'm going to try it all. Chris it sounds like you hunt the exact same type of ground I do. You were describing over half of my hunting spots when you gave your advise. It sounds like you are really used to the creek draws and brushy fence rows. I bet the fence rows are what have killed the hunt more then a few times. Set up on one with the wind in your face and there is no way to see him backdoor you.

Thanks a ton.
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Speaking of fences. If I have to cross one & there isn't a wide enough gap, for me to go through. Without depressing or stretching a wire.

I'll go a long way around it to find a wide opening to crossover. When you "depress" a wire. Even though it may not make a noise in your area. It CAN or WILL often telegraph a noise way down the wire. Giving away your position that something is coming. Any coyote in the immediate area will come alert.

That is the last thing you want, going to your stand. A coyote that knows something is coming.
 
Originally Posted By: kirby"farmland" what is that? LOL! Hey Chris, snow is a coming
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I hear ya and I hate that. I was hoping to get some coyote callin in before snow hits and the coyotes are runnin for their lives. Oh well, if the coyotes won't cooperate I'll just have to spot'n'stalk some fox D).

CB
 
Here is a bedded Red Fox on some flatland. Red is out maybe 300yrds or so. I stopped on a gravel road, cross-wind & slightly up-wind of this Red. The Red had it's back to me, intially. As it was facing down-wind. It only turned it's head my way as it heard my truck come to a stop.

Point being, if I had stopped further up & cross-wind from this Red. I would've been unseen, unscented & un-heard. Et been able to try & call it.
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Park to their "up & cross-wind". Preferably behind a high cut road ditch bank. Or has already been mentioned, a farmsted or acrege. Go into this open stand area from angled up-wind or cross-wind. Call towards cover to your cross-wind.
 
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Worst tactic a hunter would do on flatland. Is to go into the area from the down-wind. Any canine up-wind, will have an easy time pegging your movment from long range. As those up-wind canines. Will more than likely be facing or scanning their down-wind areas. Game over, before it even started.
 
Originally Posted By: kirbyWorst tactic a hunter would do on flatland. Is to go into the area from the down-wind. Any canine up-wind, will have an easy time pegging your movment from long range. As those up-wind canines. Will more than likely be facing or scanning their down-wind areas. Game over, before it even started.

Kirby, Happened to me more than once
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Josh keep in mind that fox may try to circle but they won't use cover like a coyote. The fox I've called have stayed out in the fields where they can use their eyes to alert them of trouble. IMO, fox tend to use eyes first, nose second where as coyotes around here tend to use their nose and eyes equally.

CB
 


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