Hats off to RUSH!!

Ahh, I get it, you're referring to this "Big Oil" no?

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Alaska Republican Senator Indicted for not reporting $250,000 gift from oil companies. Not illegal to get a bribe, I mean gift, just not reporting it. He works cheap it seems:



Big Oil's biggest quarter ever: $51.5B in all By JOHN PORRETTO, AP Business Writer
Fri Aug 1, 5:11 PM ET



HOUSTON - Oil giants Chevron Corp. and Total SA wrapped up a string of gargantuan, record-breaking earnings reports Friday, a stretch in which six of the major international oil companies topped $50 billion in combined profit for the first time.


While the profits of unparalleled size have brought withering criticism from Washington and disgust from consumers across the country, very few were surprised. Crude prices during the second quarter were nearly double what they were a year ago.

Chevron said Friday its second-quarter profit rose 11 percent to a record $5.98 billion.

Revenue rose significantly to $82.9 billion from $56.1 billion a year ago.

But results for the second-largest U.S. oil company missed Wall Street forecasts and shares fell.

Like its competitors, Chevron made the bulk of its money at its exploration and production arm, also known as the upstream, where income nearly doubled from a year ago to $7.25 billion.

Chevron said the average sales price for crude and natural gas liquids was $109 a barrel in the quarter, up from $57 a barrel in the year-earlier period.

In addition to Chevron, soaring commodity prices led to record quarters for Exxon Mobil Corp., ConocoPhillips, BP PLC and Royal Dutch Shell PLC. Exxon Mobil stood apart even from this crowd, logging the largest ever quarterly operating profit for a U.S. company. Barring companies that made huge profits on one-time gains like bankruptcy settlements and spin-offs, Exxon Mobil holds the top 10 records for biggest U.S. quarterly earnings.

French energy company Total SA said Friday its profit climbed 38.7 percent in the second quarter to $7.38 billion. Quarterly sales rose 23 percent to $75.25 billion.

Altogether, the profits of the six companies jumped more than 40 percent in the second quarter to $51.5 billion, the first time big Western oil companies have ever reached that level.

Total's earnings were at the top end of analysts' expectations.

Unlike some other oil majors, Total reported production growth of 1.3 percent in the second quarter.

Also Friday, Norway's state-controlled StatoilHydro ASA reported a 37 percent rise in second-quarter net profits to $3.7 billion.

At Chevron, the company division that refines and sells gasoline actually swung to a loss of $734 million in the quarter after earning $1.3 billion a year ago. The culprit: those same crude prices that lifted upstream earnings.

Like its peers, Chevron doesn't produce enough oil on its own to feed its refineries, forcing it to buy some on the open market. And it wasn't able to raise the price of gasoline and other products fast enough to recover its own rising costs for oil.

Chevron also said that planned downtime at some refineries contributed to the loss.

"The higher cost of crude oil used in the refining process was not fully recovered in the price of gasoline and other refined products," said Chairman and CEO Dave O'Reilly. "As a result, our downstream operations incurred a loss in the second quarter, with most of the loss taking place in the United States."

Chevron said overall production in the quarter fell about 3 percent from a year ago, hurt in part by production-sharing contracts. However, on a conference call with analysts Friday, company officials said project startups will increase production in the second half of 2008 and the company should meet or exceed its full-year volume target.

Chevron shares slipped 71 cents in afternoon trading to $83.85. They've traded in a range of $76.40 to $104.63 in the past year.

Total shares fell 1.2 percent to 48.79 euros ($75.95) in Paris.

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Java's buddy "Big OIL"? This thread should be in the Humor Forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

DR, take note the "Big Oil" and Barak Obama have the same abreviation. Coincidence, no?

If you want to talk "Big Oil" then you must either be referring to foreign owned oil companies or our government, which is it?





And a stupid one at that.

 
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Considering how this thread is going, I'd like to stop for a second and point something out!!

The worst criticism of Rush is try to pass of what he says as a big joke on all of us dumbarses. I haven't heard anything better than that from even the most pablum-puking Rush haters I know at work! Funny isn't it? We should be laughing at how the left has the inability to actually ARGUE any facts that Rush brings up...there's your comedy!

BTW-bonus Neocon, right-wing radical brownie points if you can identify who used to say 'pablum puking' on HIS show...now we're going back a bit...

As long as we're reminiscing...I should go ahead and add that I've listened to Rush since he first hit the airwaves here in Big D. We even used to watch his TV show-REMEMBER THAT!?!?!? Somewhere we still have many episodes taped. Need to hit the archives and see what turns up. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Pyle--The late, great, chain-smoking, Mort Downey, Jr. was the guy who said: "Zip it, pablum-puker. ZIP-it!" /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Yeah, you are spot on about Rush. Rush bashers make personal insults about his former weight problem and prescription drug addiction and they mischaracterize both his arguments and his delivery. I expect most, at least those I've heard, have never even listened to him. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif They laugh at him because NPR told them to. Listening to liberals talk about Rush is a cackle because they are clueless and unable to think critically and so follow the party line in lock step that they would never challenge their 'feelings' by considering facts and reason...

I see liberals as analogous to herding prey animals. They can't see things very well. They move with the herd--maybe one alpha male calling the shots, usually mating with all the females in the herd and the other males are passive and just follow everybody else.

The conservative is the predator. He has closely spaced eyes in front of his face, excellent vision, and sees a much wider range of what is really happening. He's also got highly tuned other senses: Hearing, smell in addition to the excellent eyesight. He usually mates with one female at a time and while he may have a pack of buddies, he does his best hunting on his own. He is also much, much more intelligent than the typical prey animal. The government often tries to destroy him, but they can't ever really manage to do it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I see liberals as herding prey animals. They can't see things very well. They move with the herd--maybe one alpha male calling the shots, usually mating with all the females in the herd and the other males are passive and just follow.

The conservative is the predator. He has closely spaced eyes in front of his face, excellent vision, and sees a much wider range of what is really happening. He's also got highly tuned other senses: Hearing, smell in addition to the excellent eyesight. He usually mates with one female at a time and while he may have a pack of buddies, he does his best hunting on his own. He is also much, much more intelligent than the typical prey animal. The government often tries to destroy him, but they can't every really manage to do it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif



/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif Thats one of the better posts I've seen yet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif You deserve a /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif Java. Some of the liberals here ought to read that a couple of times but they still won't get it /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Yah Java I kind of liken liberals to sled dogs. Not the lead dog. They just have one thing constantly in sight and soon their attitude reflects what they see.
 
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Ahh, I get it, you're referring to this "Big Oil" no?

And I quote.......
Alaska Republican Senator Indicted for not reporting $250,000 gift from oil companies. Not illegal to get a bribe, I mean gift, just not reporting it. He works cheap it seems:



Big Oil's biggest quarter ever: $51.5B in all By JOHN PORRETTO, AP Business Writer
Fri Aug 1, 5:11 PM ET



HOUSTON - Oil giants Chevron Corp. and Total SA wrapped up a string of gargantuan, record-breaking earnings reports Friday, a stretch in which six of the major international oil companies topped $50 billion in combined profit for the first time.


While the profits of unparalleled size have brought withering criticism from Washington and disgust from consumers across the country, very few were surprised. Crude prices during the second quarter were nearly double what they were a year ago.

Chevron said Friday its second-quarter profit rose 11 percent to a record $5.98 billion.

Revenue rose significantly to $82.9 billion from $56.1 billion a year ago.

But results for the second-largest U.S. oil company missed Wall Street forecasts and shares fell.

Like its competitors, Chevron made the bulk of its money at its exploration and production arm, also known as the upstream, where income nearly doubled from a year ago to $7.25 billion.

Chevron said the average sales price for crude and natural gas liquids was $109 a barrel in the quarter, up from $57 a barrel in the year-earlier period.

In addition to Chevron, soaring commodity prices led to record quarters for Exxon Mobil Corp., ConocoPhillips, BP PLC and Royal Dutch Shell PLC. Exxon Mobil stood apart even from this crowd, logging the largest ever quarterly operating profit for a U.S. company. Barring companies that made huge profits on one-time gains like bankruptcy settlements and spin-offs, Exxon Mobil holds the top 10 records for biggest U.S. quarterly earnings.

French energy company Total SA said Friday its profit climbed 38.7 percent in the second quarter to $7.38 billion. Quarterly sales rose 23 percent to $75.25 billion.

Altogether, the profits of the six companies jumped more than 40 percent in the second quarter to $51.5 billion, the first time big Western oil companies have ever reached that level.

Total's earnings were at the top end of analysts' expectations.

Unlike some other oil majors, Total reported production growth of 1.3 percent in the second quarter.

Also Friday, Norway's state-controlled StatoilHydro ASA reported a 37 percent rise in second-quarter net profits to $3.7 billion.

At Chevron, the company division that refines and sells gasoline actually swung to a loss of $734 million in the quarter after earning $1.3 billion a year ago. The culprit: those same crude prices that lifted upstream earnings.

Like its peers, Chevron doesn't produce enough oil on its own to feed its refineries, forcing it to buy some on the open market. And it wasn't able to raise the price of gasoline and other products fast enough to recover its own rising costs for oil.

Chevron also said that planned downtime at some refineries contributed to the loss.

"The higher cost of crude oil used in the refining process was not fully recovered in the price of gasoline and other refined products," said Chairman and CEO Dave O'Reilly. "As a result, our downstream operations incurred a loss in the second quarter, with most of the loss taking place in the United States."

Chevron said overall production in the quarter fell about 3 percent from a year ago, hurt in part by production-sharing contracts. However, on a conference call with analysts Friday, company officials said project startups will increase production in the second half of 2008 and the company should meet or exceed its full-year volume target.

Chevron shares slipped 71 cents in afternoon trading to $83.85. They've traded in a range of $76.40 to $104.63 in the past year.

Total shares fell 1.2 percent to 48.79 euros ($75.95) in Paris.

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That's my nickname for Red dawg.


Java's buddy "Big OIL"? This thread should be in the Humor Forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

DR, take note the "Big Oil" and Barak Obama have the same abreviation. Coincidence, no?

If you want to talk "Big Oil" then you must either be referring to foreign owned oil companies or our government, which is it?





And a stupid one at that.






Can i please just ask one question here, it seems as if you are blaming the republicans for the oil companies profits, so my question is, what is the liberals ideas in order to stop this? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif
 
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Ahh, I get it, you're referring to this "Big Oil" no?

And I quote.......
Alaska Republican Senator Indicted for not reporting $250,000 gift from oil companies. Not illegal to get a bribe, I mean gift, just not reporting it. He works cheap it seems:



Big Oil's biggest quarter ever: $51.5B in all By JOHN PORRETTO, AP Business Writer
Fri Aug 1, 5:11 PM ET



HOUSTON - Oil giants Chevron Corp. and Total SA wrapped up a string of gargantuan, record-breaking earnings reports Friday, a stretch in which six of the major international oil companies topped $50 billion in combined profit for the first time.


While the profits of unparalleled size have brought withering criticism from Washington and disgust from consumers across the country, very few were surprised. Crude prices during the second quarter were nearly double what they were a year ago.

Chevron said Friday its second-quarter profit rose 11 percent to a record $5.98 billion.

Revenue rose significantly to $82.9 billion from $56.1 billion a year ago.

But results for the second-largest U.S. oil company missed Wall Street forecasts and shares fell.

Like its competitors, Chevron made the bulk of its money at its exploration and production arm, also known as the upstream, where income nearly doubled from a year ago to $7.25 billion.

Chevron said the average sales price for crude and natural gas liquids was $109 a barrel in the quarter, up from $57 a barrel in the year-earlier period.

In addition to Chevron, soaring commodity prices led to record quarters for Exxon Mobil Corp., ConocoPhillips, BP PLC and Royal Dutch Shell PLC. Exxon Mobil stood apart even from this crowd, logging the largest ever quarterly operating profit for a U.S. company. Barring companies that made huge profits on one-time gains like bankruptcy settlements and spin-offs, Exxon Mobil holds the top 10 records for biggest U.S. quarterly earnings.

French energy company Total SA said Friday its profit climbed 38.7 percent in the second quarter to $7.38 billion. Quarterly sales rose 23 percent to $75.25 billion.

Altogether, the profits of the six companies jumped more than 40 percent in the second quarter to $51.5 billion, the first time big Western oil companies have ever reached that level.

Total's earnings were at the top end of analysts' expectations.

Unlike some other oil majors, Total reported production growth of 1.3 percent in the second quarter.

Also Friday, Norway's state-controlled StatoilHydro ASA reported a 37 percent rise in second-quarter net profits to $3.7 billion.

At Chevron, the company division that refines and sells gasoline actually swung to a loss of $734 million in the quarter after earning $1.3 billion a year ago. The culprit: those same crude prices that lifted upstream earnings.

Like its peers, Chevron doesn't produce enough oil on its own to feed its refineries, forcing it to buy some on the open market. And it wasn't able to raise the price of gasoline and other products fast enough to recover its own rising costs for oil.

Chevron also said that planned downtime at some refineries contributed to the loss.

"The higher cost of crude oil used in the refining process was not fully recovered in the price of gasoline and other refined products," said Chairman and CEO Dave O'Reilly. "As a result, our downstream operations incurred a loss in the second quarter, with most of the loss taking place in the United States."

Chevron said overall production in the quarter fell about 3 percent from a year ago, hurt in part by production-sharing contracts. However, on a conference call with analysts Friday, company officials said project startups will increase production in the second half of 2008 and the company should meet or exceed its full-year volume target.

Chevron shares slipped 71 cents in afternoon trading to $83.85. They've traded in a range of $76.40 to $104.63 in the past year.

Total shares fell 1.2 percent to 48.79 euros ($75.95) in Paris.

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That's my nickname for Red dawg.


Java's buddy "Big OIL"? This thread should be in the Humor Forum. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

DR, take note the "Big Oil" and Barak Obama have the same abreviation. Coincidence, no?

If you want to talk "Big Oil" then you must either be referring to foreign owned oil companies or our government, which is it?





And a stupid one at that.





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Oh, they're "allowed" to make a profit, as long it's not "obscene". I've asked the RabbitTurd many times how that's defined, but he refuses to answer, right "Big Government"?
 
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Oh, they're "allowed" to make a profit, as long it's not "obscene". I've asked the RabbitTurd many times how that's defined, but he refuses to answer, right "Big Government"?



What is "obscene" to me is the hefty sums those boys pay in taxes for all they do for our lifestyle...grumble, grumble...

What the libtards don't get--or do get and just lie about--is that in reality those firms pay no taxes, no business does, the high taxes are a cost of doing business that is simply reflected in the price of the good or service that business offers the public out in the market. Thus, fuel prices would be lower if taxes were lower. But, um, the Democrats don't want to talk about that when they can appeal to the worst in people's souls and play the class envy card.

I get frustrated, too, because--as I and numerous other 'regulars' have posted here--the oil companies' PROFIT MARGINS are actually low compared to 'big computer software,' 'big Internet search engines,' 'big fast food,' and, my favorite, 'big coffee.' /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

As you pointed out, Dawg, the worst offender for taking the most money and providing the 'customer' the least is BIG GOVERNMENT.

I am happy to pay taxes to support our country's defense, in fact I wish military personnel were paid better, but there isn't much else the government does that I believe is done very well or efficiently by it. Entitlements do nothing for me and yet we pay for huge numbers of them and they cost us a ton.

I'm a radical: I believe much of what the Federal government is into could be done away with and normal people wouldn't even feel it--except, of course via lowered taxes if our elected leaders actually had the gonads to cut spending in proportion to cutting 'programs.' I think much of the necessary tasks could be more efficiently contracted from the private sector.

(BTW, no offense to you personally as a Federal worker, DR, and, no, I don't like seeing folks get laid off, but changes such as those I'm advocating could be phased in via hiring freezes, attrition, early retirements, buy outs, etc. and we'd have better economic efficiency in government with minimal adverse impact on the existing Federal workforce. Again, obviously we need some Federal workers and somebody has to do those jobs and I'm not suggesting all Federal workers are terrible people or anything absurd like that. Here in MD I see state and Federal make-work jobs used to buy votes at the public's expense and it is, in my view, a morally reprehensible practice. I just say let government workforce conditions mirror the private sector's as closely as possible and I think, as a taxpayer, this is a reasonable expectation on my part).

Quick examples of my point: Rural electrification. OK, mission accomplished, we did that decades ago, yeah!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif So, why are government rural electrification agencies set up during the FDR administration STILL in existence? Perhaps because once people rely on government to 'fix' something, it NEVER acknowledges it finished the task and closes up the agency? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

Hells bells, we still have the telephone excise tax in place that was created to fund the Spanish-American War in the 1890's...er, we can cut that tax now, guys in DC, we won that conflict with our horse-mounted cavalry and 30-40 Krags over 100 years ago. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Want another one?--and please, if you doubt my words I encourage you to Snopes.com my claims here, I won't be offended, lol! We spend $ millions each year on the wool and mohair program to subsidize America's goat herders. Why, you may ask? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif Well, we used wool and mohair for our military uniforms and we wanted to ensure a steady supply. Makes sense, right? Well, it did in WWI when the subsidy was created and we actually used wool uniforms! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif We have not done that in ages, yet the subsidy program lives on--like some DC vampire it is one of the undead and needs a wooden stake in its heart.

Bilingual education? The overwhelming majority of studies show immigrant kids (and you all know what "immigrant" mostly really means, ahem!) learn English best WITHOUT bilingual education programs. Make sense, right? OK, so naturally you and I are taxed at the point of the IRS's gun to fork over ~$300 million annually for...bilingual ed! Huh? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif

BTW, the 'Head Start' program is an ineffective waste of big bucks, too. It has no appreciable effect on improving kids' academics, but watch 'em scream and squawk at this sacrilege if anybody even MENTIONS so much as cutting a dime from that. In fact, Democrats always want to INCREASE useless Head Start funding---'don't bother me with facts, Java, it feels good to throw other people's hard-earned money at bureaucrats who make a living off the fact many little black kids cannot read the way they should, despite the fact that the spending doesn't help these kids!'

(In fact, if we didn't pay our welfare 'mothers' so much money that they all can afford TV sets with cable, naturally, then I bet their kids' reading scores would be better! Make it a rule that if you have children you cannot own a TV and receive AFDC or WIC or any of that crap and I'd be happy to have my tax $$$ used to send those kids 7-10 books per month--NOT money FOR books, but the actual books so they'd have them there at the house. Give the kid a list and they can pick out a certain number of titles each month and send the card in via post paid business return mail. If it doesn't get sent in, Momma gets no checks or food stamps that month and Child Protective Services pays a visit to bring some food and explain to momma that the kids will be removed for their safety if she continues to be an irresponsible parent. The government would have little to do with this, it wouldn't print or distribute the books. If I were running the operation, I'd issue an RFP (Request for Proposals) and send it out to Scholastic and all the companies who do the kids' book printing, distribution and sales. Those companies who want the business would bid and you can bet it would be more efficient and cost the taxpayers far less than if the government did it itself. Basic rule of economics applied here in my hypothetical: if you make it a painful hassle to receive government largess then fewer people will do it and those who do will do so for a shorter period. The idea should be to not make it a multi-generational way of life...but what do I know, I'm just a stupid small biz guy...).

Hey, how about good ole Amtrack? It spends as much as $300 of our $$$ on per passenger subsidy on some of its routes. It would be cheaper to simply stop the trains and pay private vehicle contractors to just haul those passengers in charter buses!

I could go on and on with examples, but I expect you get my point here.

"The closest thing to immortality on this earth is a federal government program." ~Ronald Wilson Reagan
 
Java, you would make a better President than anyone running. We need men like you. This is another great post. DR can you get the picture?
 
"As you pointed out, Dawg, the worst offender for taking the most money and providing the 'customer' the least is BIG GOVERNMENT."

Great post Java. "Big Government" is my nickname for the Wabbit, since he is a worthless bureaucrat that is a parasite on the producer's wallets. Apparently he believes it's government that should "fix" those evil oil companies too. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
libertarians don't continually express class envy. their whole philosophy is wrapped around personal freedom, the ability to earn as much as you can & keep it.

it's the hard lefties who have problems with the success rush has enjoyed over the last 2 decades & with anyone who manages to "make too much", which is typically defined by such lefties as meaning "more than I make".

Sucks to be them.
 
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Greg, you are, again, too kind, sir!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif

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Greg, you are, again, too kind, sir!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif

To turn it around a bit, I am VERY happy a guy like you IS going to soon be in the MT legislature! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif



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Java, you would make a better President than anyone running. We need men like you. This is another great post. DR can you get the picture?



Greg, you are, again, too kind, sir!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowingsmilie.gif

To turn it around a bit, I am VERY happy a guy like you IS going to soon be in the MT legislature! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif



i will 2nd that! montana is looking better all the

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And I will third that! I just got back from a weekend motorcycle ride through Montana and did not see a single solitary Obama bumper sticker or road sign! Not one!

Here in Idaho about the only place you will see them are on the cars parked in a gay bar parking lot in Boise. They are few and far between, thank God! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
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Did you go to Missoula? There are lots of BO stickers there /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif. Missoula is the "Moscow" of Montana.
 
According the MSM, Montana will be a blue state in November. Not that I have much room to complain, NM's right there too...
 
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That could very well happen. I do know this, there is a strong possibility that Senator Max Baucus will resign due to health reasons right after the election. That way our Democrat Governor can appoint a Democrat to replace him. The kicker is that Baucus has a substantial campaign war chest of about $6 million. He can't take it with him so it will be used to defeat Republicans throughout the state. One of the targeted races is mine. There is no way I will be able to compete with that kind of money. I have a hunch it will get down and dirty right at the very end, I will have no part of that nonsense..
 
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Did you go to Missoula? There are lots of BO stickers there /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif. Missoula is the "Moscow" of Montana.



Yes, Missoula was where we spent the night day one. Being a college town I feel sure that it had its share of Obama crap, but I laid eyes on not a one. We headed down to Butte there where my buddy had to get a back tire on his Harley. We walked around town (had to see that famous red light district!) and saw no signs of any Obama poisoning there for sure. Overall, Montana looked to be the great conservative state that I wish that they all could be.
 
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And I will third that! I just got back from a weekend motorcycle ride through Montana and did not see a single solitary Obama bumper sticker or road sign! Not one!





Did you go to Missoula? There are lots of BO stickers there /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif. Missoula is the "Moscow" of Montana.



Yes, Missoula was where we spent the night day one. Being a college town I feel sure that it had its share of Obama crap, but I laid eyes on not a one. We headed down to Butte there where my buddy had to get a back tire on his Harley. We walked around town (had to see that famous red light district!) and saw no signs of any Obama poisoning there for sure. Overall, Montana looked to be the great conservative state that I wish that they all could be.



To see none in Butte is a miracle in itself. That is "the" Democrat stronghold for sure but some there are the old fashioned Democrats. Not that this makes much difference anymore.
 
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Did you go to Missoula? There are lots of BO stickers there /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif. Missoula is the "Moscow" of Montana.



The sad part is, Missoula is a nice place! Good hunting and fishing near there and my kids' favorite motel is the Missoula C'Mon Inn, where we always HAVE to stay when we go there, lol!

Norman Maclean, author of A River Runs Through It, Young Men and Fire and other Montana-set books was from there.

Quick Missoula story: I have two 20-something y-o step-brothers, their paternal grandpa is named Bob Sallee. He was one of the first smoke jumpers, back in the late 1940's when they were created. Missoula was then, like now, the smokejumper base of operations.

Bob Sallee was one of only three to survive the horrible 1949 Mann Gulch Fire. He was 18 years old and it was his first jump. Sixteen smoke jumpers got caught in the open on a hills side and the wind shifted wrong and the fire 'blew up,' killing 13 of the guys--horrible, horrible deaths.

He is the last living survivor. ( http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3951/is_200410/ai_n9464907 ).

Maclean immortalized these incredibly brave young guys' story in his book, Young Men and Fire.

(I won't get into how Clinton's idiotic environmentalist, anti logging Forest Service management appointees are responsible for killing four firefighter (kids, really) and injuring six other people in the 2001 30 Mile Fire, which occurred north of Winthrop, WA, in Okanogan National Forest in the Chewuch River Valley [The Chewuch feeds into the Methow River, which is better known]. Anti logging forest policy left those woods a tinderbox and then unqualified Clinton-appointees couldn't make quick, correct decisions 'under fire,' so to speak, no pun intended, and these poor, brave kids died. I used to go up there a lot and on the spots where they each died, people have placed various personal items. Thankfully, it isn't a heavily travelled area and people have been respectful and left the memorial site and personal stuff alone. Clinton's idiots should have been up on criminal charges for that crap...).

I think now there are so many libs there in Missoula because of the University being located there. You've gotta still love that country there, though.
 
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