Help, Does anyone know what is wrong?

fire29

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My dog can walk but really doesnt like to, his hind legs look very sore. He will walk around the yard but can not run, he has trouble lifting his leg to pee, he cant scratch his ears, and he will walk over to his food but lays down to eat. The rest of him seems to be working good, I can see he wants to play with the pup but he just cant do it. She will play and run into him and she knocks him over. Does any one have any idea what this could be? He is not having trouble breathing or anything else. We were out hunting on Saturday and he was digging into an old car when I noticed a bunch of bee's coming out of the vents, I grabbed his hind legs pulled him out and we left. Not to long after that I noticed he couldnt run right and was very slow. It is 4 days later and it is still happening. I would appreciate any input you may have. Thanks in advance.

Mike
 
How hard did you pull on his hind legs. Maybe he torn some muscles but just a guess. You would think if it is because of the bees he would have other signs like short of breath or something. Sorry to hear about your dog and i hope he gets better soon.
 
Thanks, I dont think he got stung, I was kind of thinking maybe I pulled something too. I am allergic to bee's and had to get out of dodge in a hurry
 
Man that stinks, I hope you get it worked out. I can't see you pulling hard enough to do the kinda damage you talk about. Tough SOB's. I could see hurting a leg but messing up the whole butt end I don't see it.

CB
 
Originally Posted By: Chris_BriceWas he on a critter? Maybe coonhound paralysis?

CB

Not to high jack the thread but could someone elaborate on Coonhound paralises...

Hope your dog gets well in a hurry...
I know that I hurt as much as they do when one of mine's sick...

Thanks
Charlie
 
CHP is definately an option, always is with the bandits, but I'd keep a close eye for an open sore or puss filled area on the affected area. Even before you said that there were insects present, I thought of a bite or sting.

If you tend to lean toward the CHP, drop Nate(Rolly) a PM, he has dealt with it extensively. Either case lots of fluids and vitamin/mineral supplementation through fish, red meat or over the counter meds can only help. Best of luck.
 
I once had a dog that acted exactly like that. My dog got an inflamed vertebra from a fall of about 2 ½ - 3 feet and landed on his rear end awkwardly. A trip to the Vet and x-rays showed the vertebra right at the root of the tail and slightly up his back was swollen and inflamed. A mild muscle relaxer and anti-inflammatory medication for a week or so and he came out of it.
 
Chris yes he got himself into a bandit a 2-3 weeks ago. I have been watching him close for the other signs and have not seen any yet.
 
Some good info on

Polyradiculoneuritis (coonhound paralysis)

Understanding Your Pet's Medical Diagnosis

What is coonhound paralysis?

Coonhound paralysis is an acute neurologic disorder in dogs affecting the nerves controlling the muscles of the fore- and hind limbs, the muscles of the neck, and the muscles that control breathing and barking.

What causes coonhound paralysis?

Coonhound paralysis is suspected to be associated with an overstimulation of a dog's immune system, which may be secondary to contact with a raccoon (and especially raccoon saliva) or another stimulating agent such as a vaccination, a viral respiratory infection, or a viral or bacterial gastrointestinal infection.

What are the signs of coonhound paralysis?

Signs will begin 7 to 14 days after contact with a raccoon or other stimulating agent. Initially, affected dogs have a stiff-stilted gait in all limbs that rapidly progresses to various degrees of limb and body weakness, or even paralysis. Voice loss or voice change is also a common early sign. Occasionally, dogs develop weakness of the facial muscles. This will consist of drooping lips, sagging eyes, and an expressionless face. Breathing difficulties may develop in severely affected dogs and, on occasion, this can lead to a complete inability to breathe. Signs progress for 4 to 5 days (occasionally up to 10 days) before the disease stabilizes. However, most dogs will not show immediate improvement in strength at this time. Muscle weakness or paralysis will continue for several weeks and perhaps for up to 4 months. During this time, affected dogs will lose considerable weight due to general muscle wasting.

Despite severe signs of weakness (or even paralysis), most dogs remain in good spirits and continue to be responsive to their guardians, even being able to wag their tail. Affected dogs will also be able to eat and drink normally if given the opportunity and will be able to urinate and defecate However, some dogs may be unwilling to perform these tasks in the first few days of the disease.

How is coonhound paralysis diagnosed?

Coonhound paralysis has classic clinical and neurologic signs that are often recognized by your veterinarian after a neurologic examination is performed. No routine blood tests are available to confirm this disease. Your veterinarian may recommend more sophisticated tests to confirm a diagnosis of coonhound paralysis that can only be performed by a neurology specialist. These include electrical testing of your dog's nerves and muscles, muscle and nerve biopsy, and a spinal tap.

How is coonhound paralysis treated?

Unfortunately, no specific drugs are available to treat coonhound paralysis. High doses of immunoglobulins may shorten the disease course, although they have yet to be proven in dogs and are expensive. Excellent nursing care and physiotherapy are the best treatment. Dogs need frequent turning and a thick, padded bed upon which to lie. The bedding must be constantly kept clean of urine and feces. This will help prevent pressure sores and urine scald. Physiotherapy in the form of passive limb movements and swimming (when your dog becomes a little stronger) are essential to help stimulate muscle strength and movement as well as to limit the degree of muscle wasting.

What is the prognosis of animals with coonhound paralysis?

The prognosis is good to excellent, with most dogs going on to full recovery. Severely affected dogs may have mild, permanent neurologic deficits. The most important thing for the guardian of a dog with coonhound paralysis to remember is that the dog may take up to several months to recover from coonhound paralysis. Unfortunately, dogs do not build up resistance to recurrence of this disease if reexposed to the same offending agent.

Polyradiculoneuritis is characterized by paralysis that begins in the hindquarters and moves forward, eventually involving the entire body. The disorder was first observed in coon dogs and thus is called "coonhound paralysis." The cause of this disease is unknown, but about half the affected dogs are bitten or scratched by a raccoon 1-2 weeks before the paralysis appears.

Most dogs with coonhound paralysis recover fully, though a few develop permanent wasting (atrophy) of some muscles. Mildly affected dogs recover within a few days, while dogs with severe cases may take several months.

No immunity results from the disease, and recovered dogs may be affected again at a later date.



Important Points in Treatment

1. Treatment in the early stages of paralysis usually requires hospitalization and intense supportive measures. This includes feeding the dog by artificial means, maintaining eliminations, providing physical therapy for the muscles, and preventing infection. Your dog will be discharged when treatment can be successfully maintained by you at home.

2. You may have to hand-feed and water your dog in some cases.

3. Exercise: Start exercising your dog as soon as it can stand. Initially, exercise periods should be short and frequent: 3-5 minutes, 4-5 times daily. Gradually increase the exercise periods to 15-20 minutes.

4. Environment: Keep your dog on warm, soft bedding while it is incapacitated. If "bed sores"develop, apply padding to protect those areas.

5. Additional instructions:


Notify the Doctor if Any of the Following Occur:

* Your dog's paralysis returns or worsens.

* Your dog cannot urinate or have a bowel movement.

* Your dog develops body sores.

* Your dog's general health changes.
 
How many of you guys on here have dealt with CHP. Does it occur often in your dogs and if so how is it prevented. It says even if they get scratched they can get it.
 
How many here have dealt with CHP during the summer?

I have only heard of it during winter esp. after cold weather forces the coon to den together for warmth.

Luckily, I've never had to deal with it.

Mike- It sounds to me like it could be pulled muscles or inflamation. If he doesn't improve in a few days I'd suck it up and get a vets opinion just to be safe.

Ozzy's a good dog and better to be safe and out a few bucks then lose him to something that could have been prevented. Let me know if you need any help.

Sorry to hear about your lab. It's been a tough few days at your place. How are the kids handling it?

Tim
 
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I used to coon hunt all the time, but got out of it about 6-8 years ago. One morning my walker broke his chain and got loose after I had left for work. Sometime during the day my neighbor caught him and locked him in a horse stall at his barn until I got home. When I got home from work and went over to pick him up, he wasn't in the stall, and we could see he had dug a hole under the outside wall. When we went around the outside of the barn, he was laying about 50 yards away, in the grass. When I walked over to put a leash on him, I could tell something was wrong and he woudln't use his back legs. I carried him to the truck and went straight to the vet. They did plenty of x-rays, and came to the conclusion that he had pulled muscles in his back and back legs while struggling to get through the hole he'd dug. The vet suggest I rest him for a few weeks, and gave him some muscle relaxers, so he got a free pass to stay in the house for about a month and enjoy the AC. I could notice much improvement after 2 weeks, but rested him another 2 weeks just to be safe. Once I got him back in the woods, he as good as ever! Hopefully that's all that's wrong wtih your dog. I'd take him to vet ASAP!
 
I've already pm'd Fire, but for the rest of you wondering about CHP, if it was more than 2 weeks ago, it is not going to be CHP. I've had 3 dogs in 4 yrs get CHP, always showed itself on day 7. Workman is probably right, same thing I told Fire, likely a reaction to getting stung. Advised a half a benedryl and r&r. Rest will do a lot for anything.

CHP: no cure, no prevention, some get it, some don't, could have been hunted on hundreds of coons before a dog gets it, some live, some die.

2 of mine died, 1 lived. Some say prednisone will cure it, I believe the nature of an anti-inflammatory steriod reduces the immune system to the point a dog can't fight CHP. I have never used it, but don't know that it would or wouldn't help. I have talked to several working terrier people that have had dealings with CHP over the years, but the only interesting thing I have heard, was using different WORMER may prevent CHP. A certain type of Ivomec seems to work. I don't remember what kind it was, but I will find out again, since I am switching ALL my dogs to that. The person who said it works has been hunting coons with dogs for over 30 yrs and never had CHP ONCE!
 
Can any breed of dog get this? I know it's called "Coon Hound Paralysis" , but you mentioned the working terriers.

In case I missed this above, I apologize.
 
Yes, and dog can get it if in contact with a coon. But like I said, only certain ones get it. The dog I currently have that has survived it, had been on hundreds of coon before the one that got him. There where 12 coons in the place he got it from, and none of the other 3 dogs got it. 2 of the other dogs got severely damaged and he barely got beat up.

There is no way to determine if a coon has it or if your dog will get it. I have always gotten CHP in winter usually a week after a blizzard or extremely cold snap, like -20 below for a week previous. I haven't heard of any dogs getting it in the summer, but in areas where the coons don't den up together, like down south, they still get it.
 


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