Help me! 20 year chase with no coyotes

Not going to believe this. Had a textbook set up tonight and two coyotes came in about 3 minutes in. I let one come to about 40 yards in front of me. There was a downed tree he was walking around and a limb was sticking out and that’s what I hit when I shot… I can’t believe it. We watched the video about 100 times and can’t believe it. You can see the bullet deflect. Saw something come out of him multiple times when he was running but when we walked up on it, it was pee. So apparently they pee when they are running getting shot at. I appreciate all the info and help though guys.
 
Not going to believe this. Had a textbook set up tonight and two coyotes came in about 3 minutes in. I let one come to about 40 yards in front of me. There was a downed tree he was walking around and a limb was sticking out and that’s what I hit when I shot… I can’t believe it. We watched the video about 100 times and can’t believe it. You can see the bullet deflect. Saw something come out of him multiple times when he was running but when we walked up on it, it was pee. So apparently they pee when they are running getting shot at. I appreciate all the info and help though guys.
Well congratulations on at least getting a shot off!

Yes sir!… You had yourself a pisser! There are times when they launch turds too! 🤣

Better luck on the next one. Can’t wait for the pictures and the story!
 
I have had coyote come in as late as the 45 min mark and as early as the 3 min mark. I give every stand 1 hour personally. I've had them not come in when I was dead silent walking into the stand and I've had them come in when I was noisy as heck walking in. I think like others have mentioned playing the wind is extremely important.

Just my 2 cents I'm not sure I would start with a coyote call then move towards a distress call, imo it sounds like an unnatural sequence of calls, but then again I'm not expert and I've been surprised before.

I've had success with using only rabbit distress for 45 minutes (3 minutes calling followed by a few minutes of it muted over the course of 45 minutes)

I've also had the quickest stand ever with only using pup distress, female came charging in after 3 mins.

I Think now that you're night hunting you will have more success as I heard daytime yote hunting is a little more tricky. Keep us posted, can't wait to see your yote!
 
Not going to believe this. Had a textbook set up tonight and two coyotes came in about 3 minutes in. I let one come to about 40 yards in front of me. There was a downed tree he was walking around and a limb was sticking out and that’s what I hit when I shot… I can’t believe it. We watched the video about 100 times and can’t believe it. You can see the bullet deflect. Saw something come out of him multiple times when he was running but when we walked up on it, it was pee. So apparently they pee when they are running getting shot at. I appreciate all the info and help though guys.
To me that's still a successful night! Beginning of this season I also missed one due to what i think was a deflection from a tree branch. Has happened to me many timesover the last 1.5 seasons hunting yotes in the woods. Keep us posted
 
I just read alf's post regarding his calling sequence and he does the howls then distress after. Disregard what I said about thinking the coyote then distress might sound unnatural, just to clarify I meant coyote sounds followed by prey distress. I'm still green and have only killed 2 yotes, if it works for alf then I'm sure that sequence is fine

I have seen yotes hide behind a tree and stare at the call with only there head sticking out from behind the tree

When are you heading out again? Pumped for you
 
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Not going to believe this. Had a textbook set up tonight and two coyotes came in about 3 minutes in. I let one come to about 40 yards in front of me. There was a downed tree he was walking around and a limb was sticking out and that’s what I hit when I shot… I can’t believe it. We watched the video about 100 times and can’t believe it. You can see the bullet deflect. Saw something come out of him multiple times when he was running but when we walked up on it, it was pee. So apparently they pee when they are running getting shot at. I appreciate all the info and help though guys.
Well damn the luck anyway. At least you had some action, keeps the fire burning. Close the deal next time.

Be neat to see the video if you can.
 
Been thermal hunting a couple of years now and still took advice off this thread and killed last night. My coyotes came at about the 40 minute mark. That’s starting with rabbit distress, then howls, then vocals/fights, then back to a different rabbit distress. There were quite a few breaks along the sequence and some longer than I’ve ever waited before. That last rabbit distress was after 5 minutes or so of silence and was my Hail Mary, lol. It worked!! I don’t have a lot of places to call, so I just decided to not “force” anything and just take my time and enjoy the cold Star filled night.
 
Been thermal hunting a couple of years now and still took advice off this thread and killed last night. My coyotes came at about the 40 minute mark. That’s starting with rabbit distress, then howls, then vocals/fights, then back to a different rabbit distress. There were quite a few breaks along the sequence and some longer than I’ve ever waited before. That last rabbit distress was after 5 minutes or so of silence and was my Hail Mary, lol. It worked!! I don’t have a lot of places to call, so I just decided to not “force” anything and just take my time and enjoy the cold Star filled night.
That's awesome man congrats, do you make a pelt out of most of your coyotes? I'm still waiting on my 2 pelts to come back I can't wait to hang them up. I want my whole office filled with pelts lol
 
Haha, I’m in SWGA our fur isn’t worth anything, so no, not wasting time skinning and definitely not spending money to have one tanned. I’ve killed late Spring Kansas coyotes that had more fur then than our winter coyotes.
My son did catch a real pretty coyote this past weekend that was the best I’ve seen around this area, even had guard hair! The landowner he was trapping for took it to get it either mounted or tanned. They just want stuff to display and say it came from their property. I can unload cats to people that want to get them mounted a lot easier than a coyote.
 
Just my 2 cents I'm not sure I would start with a coyote call then move towards a distress call, imo it sounds like an unnatural sequence of calls, but then again I'm not expert and I've been surprised before.

I just read alf's post regarding his calling sequence and he does the howls then distress after. Disregard what I said about thinking the coyote then distress might sound unnatural, just to clarify I meant coyote sounds followed by prey distress
You can absolutely howl first, then go into prey distress. You can do just the opposite. You can just howl, with no distress. You can use distress with no howls. You can be successful with any and all of these tactics at any time of the year. However, knowing what the coyotes are doing at certain times of the year will help with your decision making on what calls can potentially up your odds of triggering them.

All coyotes need to eat, so distress can always produce. However, at this time of the year they are prepping for breeding, digging den sites and really locking down their home turf. Howls and other coyote vocalizations are extremely effective at triggering aggressive responses. On the other side of the coin is the transient coyotes that have been evicted from their home ranges and they're looking for a place to call home, as well as possibly find a companion. Vocals are effective on them as well so they can size up the competition or possibly enter a romantic relationship. You can slip some prey distress into the mix anywhere within a sequence and it shouldn't cause any negative reactions. Coyotes run into prey before, during and after they howl all the time.
 
You can absolutely howl first, then go into prey distress. You can do just the opposite. You can just howl, with no distress. You can use distress with no howls. You can be successful with any and all of these tactics at any time of the year. However, knowing what the coyotes are doing at certain times of the year will help with your decision making on what calls can potentially up your odds of triggering them.

All coyotes need to eat, so distress can always produce. However, at this time of the year they are prepping for breeding, digging den sites and really locking down their home turf. Howls and other coyote vocalizations are extremely effective at triggering aggressive responses. On the other side of the coin is the transient coyotes that have been evicted from their home ranges and they're looking for a place to call home, as well as possibly find a companion. Vocals are effective on them as well so they can size up the competition or possibly enter a romantic relationship. You can slip some prey distress into the mix anywhere within a sequence and it shouldn't cause any negative reactions. Coyotes run into prey before, during and after they howl all the time.
Gotcha ok good to know thank you! I'm gonna try mixing it up now as I was very hesitant in the past to mix up between coyote sounds and prey because I wasn't sure if it'd sound natural
 
Find Infidels posts and read and pay attention to everything he says.
I don’t think coyotes “reason” like we do. I could be wrong but I just don’t think it matters what they hear as long as they hear something that triggers them.
I also think it was Jeremy that posted they saw coyotes and threw about every sound on the caller one right after another until one got their attention.
Also pay attention to what someone else said about coyote density and your acreage. I don’t have a ton of places and apparently when I first started calling we had a lot more coyotes and they were very vocal and it seemed pup distress would bring them from everywhere. I haven’t heard a coyote in probably over 6 months now, so I had to get rid of that thinking that if they don’t answer they ain’t there. Last night proved that wrong.
I like starting out with some sort of prey distress mainly because we have more cats than coyotes. With that said, I’ve called in more cats with pup distress than prey distress, lol!
 
It's not like the coyotes are out there listening & finally hear something they like and come charging in. Although I'm sure at times that does happen, and it does take the right call to spark their interest. I've also had coyotes ignore me during the day that I threw everything & the kitchen sink at them with zero interest.

Also remember, with coyotes on the move at night, I'm sure there's other times, after a while on stand, that one finally comes into hearing range too.
 
I know this is vague, but it is what I have found to be true. What works today, tomorrow, and next week might not work for a year-be versatile in your thinking and calling. If sound "A" worked all the time, there wouldn't been any coyotes to hunt ;). If you do use howls (which I do a lot BUT sparingly in a set except for breeding season), use non-aggressive single or pair sounds until you learn the nuances of "their" language. Good luck.
 
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