Help me transition my AR to be a coyote setup...

Can’t help with a thermal, but it’s hard to beat the Griffin Explorr 224 in terms of weight, sound suppression, length, and back pressure. I have a lot of cans….over 2 dozen, and I’d pick the explorr for the above reasons.
 
Agree with everyone here that you want a minimum of 640 on your thermal. Budget friendly options are pretty lean but I’d maybe start with Pulsar Trail XP50. I would think by now you could find one of those at a decent price. They’re well built and mine still functions great as a “backdoor I hear something stirring out back let’s take a quick peek” grab and go scanner.
 
Or…go with a DNT Zulus w/ rangefinder and built in ballistic calc so you can use it day and night. Get a Rix K3 to scan with (also comes in handy to scan during deer season). I have the Arken Zulus (V1) and can easily identify yotes at 400 yards with the onboard IR illuminator. My furthest one was at 255 yards and stiffed him with a 55g Vmax this winter.
 
crapshoot said:
Identify as in by body shape or as in eye shine?
New to this stuff and asking an honest question.
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With night vision you can tell if it is a coyote or your neighbor's dog!

Just had this happen a few weeks ago. I had my thermal setup on my rifle on my back deck,see a K-9 coming my way (I watch via the APP from my couch), go get on the gun,something ain't right, moving wrong too slow,too big, tail too long, etc. grab the spotlight sure enough my neighbor's Golden retriever! @ 1:30 A.M.!! I have quite a few hours looking through this scope and thermal is easy to misidentify animals. You have to pay very close attention to how things move, their tail, every little detail to be confident as to what your shooting at. I guess if your hunting in the middle of nowhere you would not have to worry about it so much. But mistaking a dog for a coyote is easy to do.

With night vision there would have been no doubt that it was a dog and not a coyote.
 
If you insist on not spending a ton on a thermal nocpix l35 bolt w/ lrf. A better option is a agm adder v2 50x640, nocpix rh50r, or the ace 50 are solid choices.

An agm spectrum lrf night vision when paired with a good scanner will really help you with target identification if your a first time night hunter.

I get the ny supressor hate, im 15 minutes from the border and don't go into the state without a must go reason.
 
A good thermal on a budget I’d look at agm rattler v3 ts35 384lrf. And a suppressor for the money I’d go with ab suppressors a10 warthog or silencer co omega 300. With the money you saved right there get u a good trigger and if your rifle shoots then let er rip. If you’re not happy a really good barrel can be had for under $400. You’ll fill the bed of your truck with fur!!!
 
i used night vision. it looks like daytime but in a grayish color. easy to see and identify animals out o 600 yards with an after market IR light like the wicked series.

i now have a bering optices super yoter thermal in 640, sometimes its hard to distinguish between fox or coyote.

night vision gets bad in the fog or rain as it depends on a light

thermal gets bad in thick fog or high humidity but you can see out to 1,000 or so yards and spot the critters on their way in, long before they are in range.

i like both, just depends on how much gear you want attached to your gun.
 
I run 640 scope (3x base mag) and scanner BUT never felt handicapped when I ran 384s. And that was 2020-22 models, the newer ones have much better resolution!!! I hunt SW PA mostly and very few shots are over 225yds and I always use PIP. Once ID is made, I don't need a real precise target, only "minute of coyote" as Alf puts it.
You don't need a can either but if that is what you want, go for it. Coyotes (multiples) have been being killed w/o them since white men crossed the Mississippi.
 
sandy hicks said:
I will take his place. For a first time night guy, well, without a headlight anyway. Would you rather have a thermal or night vision.
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I prefer NV over thermal. I like seeing exactly what I'm shooting instead of a heat signature. With that said, you will kill more coyotes with thermal due to it's advantages in tall grass/brush. If you have the money to spend on a 640, by all means go ahead. If you don't want to spend that kind of money then you would be fine with a newer 384. NocPix Bolt L35R 384 is a really good scope for the money. The new AGM's are very good for the money.

If you decide to go NV. NocPix has a new NV out. AGM has a good one. Rix T20 is still a good one.

I would highly suggest a good thermal scanner before you even buy your scope.
 
DoubleLungRage said:
I would highly suggest a good thermal scanner before you even buy your scope.
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I have a good shooting buddy, that's not a member here, just upgraded his scanner, and has listed his Bering Optics 640 Phenom for sale for a darn good price. Lightly used & in perfect shape, I think he's asking $1650 shipped.

I can put you in touch with him if interested, PM me.
 
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