Help me with a Reloading Setup

JakeM

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I need some direction. I am looking at putting together my first reloading setup, and I don't know where to begin or what all I need.

So far I am looking at/like the Hornady Classic. I know there are others and could really use some help. I am mainly looking to reload for small caliber rounds, so cranking out quantity isn't as important as precision.

If you know of a kit that has it all or close to it, or wouldn't mind letting my know what all pieces I need I would really appreciate it.

Secondly, the main round I am looking to load for is a 17-204. What supplies additional or specific items will I need? Bushings, dies??

I really appreciate it. Im new at this so bear with me.

Jake
 
Biggest limiting factor for a recommendation is what's your budget? Bear in mind for 17 cal reloading you maybe forced to buy additional special tooling i.e. powder funnel case prep tools etc.
For dies you can use a 204 bushing die with the appropriate bushings to neck down.
 
Is it possible to get set up for 300 with a quality set up? Sounds like I need to stay away from complete kits since I will need special parts for small caliber loads.

What all will I need to for the 17-204?
Jake
 
"Sometimes" the kits are good .... but most of the time not.

The first thing you need to do is to buy a GOOD reloading manual and read it. Twice. That will give you an idea of what is required and also start to familiarize you with the equipment. That will go a long way in helping you meet your needs in the most inexpensive manner because you will start to understand more about the overall process.

I would recommend a RCBS Rockchucker press and a decent set of balance scales for starters. You will also need a moderate priced powder dispenser. You can build from that.
 
At the $300 mark you should look at the Lee. Don't get the C press. Get an O press. Nothing wrong with Lee. I have owned both RCBS and Lee. They both make good ammo. With the money saved, you can up grade the powder funnel, scale or powder drop. Also pick up a small vibrator. Nobody likes dull brass.
 
After loading, i would suggest something that has quick change for the dies. I use a Hornady, but others are just as good.
Not having to reset the dies everytime you change calibers is nice.

I would suggest:
>small gallon, or two size buckets with some cardboard in the bottom, or paper towels to absorb anything in them.
>Collect and save your brass, buy the time you have a bunch, you will be ready.
>Some kind of tumbler to clean the brass.
>Loading book,
>Loading manuals (at least two)
>Appropriate dies for the calibers you are loading. a few bucks saved on dies won't make a difference, get the best you can, they last as long as you will load.
>Scale, you can get a number of scales, but i like the digital ones that measure to the .02 level. Most only do .1 (there is a difference)
>a primer tool, something to load new primers into the cases. I like the square hand held ones, since the primer trays are square.
>Case lube, or the cases will get stuck (it's going to happen, but use lube to limit it)
>Stuck case removal tool. (it's a matter of time, so get it, and use it, or you will have to buy a new set of dies.
> powder funnel, and you are going to need a special one for small cases, also case prep tools
> press of some kind. they really don't go bad, and you can look online for used ones. as long as it moves smoothly, and without slop is should be fine.
> loading trays are nice, as well as boxes to put the loaded cases into.
> I would also get a digital caliper to measure.
> i wouldn't load without my match powder drop, it saves a ton of time.

Just to start.

I would also suggest that you find someone in the area that has been loading for more than a few years. Someone with good experience. Watch, ask, and follow along.

log what you do, create a process, stick to it, and don't vary. It's when you don't have a good thought out process and stick to it that you get in trouble.

Good luck and don't let it overwhelm you.
 
- reloading manual
- Press. Die set. Scale. Priming tool. Powder funnel. Chamfer tool. Case trimmer. Caliper.
-powder bullets primers

This will get you started then you can spend your life savings on all the other stuff you will "need"!!!!

Warning: it gets boring just loading for "one" cartridge. Get ready for a new reason to buy more guns.
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I agree buy a good manual first, read it second, then and only then buy the equipment you need third. I got into reloading after I bought my 204 and was ready to quite 2 days into it. At the end of the second day I bought and read a book, here is how I remember it going. I was at a auction and got a screaming deal on a RCBS Rock chucker press and scale. Stopped at the sporting goods store on my way home, asked the guy for some powder, primers, and 40gn v-max bullets. He sent me home with them, back to the store for a shell holder, and dies. Stuck a piece of brass in my de-priming die, didn't know it was sizing also. Took the dies back to the store and said I think these are defective, back home with sizing lube, pad, and a couple ideas on how to get the stuck brass out. Several hours later back to de-priming and sizing, several crushed cases later I decide to read the directions that came with the dies, finally got one size, then try to find out how much powder Hornady used in their factory load for 204 with out the internet, tried taking a couple Hornady factory loads apart, powder flung everywhere, wife scared the house is going to explode, back to the store, bought the thickest Hornady reloading manual they had, spent the next week of evening's reading it, back to the store Saturday bought a chamfering tool, primer pocket brush, a uniflow powder dispenser, trickler, funnel kit, dial calipers, priming tool and reloading has been very enjoyable ever since. Again, please spend a few,and hopefully several hours educating yourself first, it will save you a couple weekend of frustration, several dollar's and maybe even a gun or arm. I don't know what would have happened had I managed to get some rounds loaded before I bought the manual, but I do remember saying to my wife thank god that he put all those obstacles in my way before I got my first round load because I think it would have been a bad one. If you don't mind buying your equipment online, you can find great deals for rock chucker presses on ebay, the Hornady classic is a bit cheaper and works good from what I have seen, but personally I would go with the RCBS rock chucker press. I wasn't one who jump on the electronic powder dispensers wagon, but I went down to my little brothers for a P-dog hunt back in August, he only had 50 223 rounds so we load another 200 Friday night. He had a Gen6 and I have to admit it worked nice. I weight every 10th charge, every one weight 23.2gn. The Gen6 was set to dispense 23.3gn, he said it is a 10th light all the time so he just adds 1/10th to his charge and all is good. I think it was as fast, probably a little faster then my dump and trickle method. I added it to my birthday/Christmas list and would recommend getting one right from the start. I haven't used or been around the Hornady one, but amazon has them for $175 most of the time. Pickup a manual for $30, a used press for $80, shell holder kit for 29.99, dies for $40, funnel kit for $14.99, a cheap set of calipers for $9.99, some sizing lube with a pad for 14.99 and for $395 you some pretty good looking equipment. Then you need to figure $25 for powder, $4 per hundred for primers, $25 for bullets, and seems like brass is $50 for anything theses days. I guess if I was going to get setup and load my first round all over again it would cost $500-$550.
 
I agree with the buy the book. Buy only what need to load first. Then as you learn you will decide on the options that would be nice. I have made good ammo with just the old style lee loaders. You dont have to fancy just safety conscious.
 
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Originally Posted By: Stu Farishbe advised that you will never run out of stuff to buy...


ain't that the truth..

Don't go into a store selling reloading stuff with your wallet. Especially Dillon, that is a store you can only look at online, while your wife holds your wallet.
 
Originally Posted By: Tbone-AZ
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Don't go into a store selling reloading stuff with your wallet. Especially Dillon, that is a store you can only look at online, while your wife holds your wallet.
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SO TRUE!!
 
I really appreciate all of the replies and advice. I admit Im a little overwhelmed, which seems all the more reason to pick up a reloading manual and go from there.

I think Ill start with the one from Tod Kindler since I am starting with a 17 anyway, and don't want to end up with general tools when I need something specific for small calibers.

Ill get started on reading and pick up supplies as I can.
Jake
 
RCBS® Kit Rock Chucker Supreme Basic 101

This is where I would start. A set of dies and a shell holder and a cheap caliper will start you. You will never need to up grade, and it won't wear out. Big enough for the belted magnums. Mail in rebate going on now. Comes with a manual. Nothing you'll outgrow.

Some Ford-Chevy here, but RCBS sets the bar for customer service bar none.
 
All good, but I'm an advocate of asking friends, neighbors, drinking buddies, and church members if they have equipment no longer used by them. The stuff hardly ever wears out, and the components are almost always compatible and interchangeable. Another concern might be what brand is supported by your local stores. it's frustrating to break a small part, like a depriming pin, only to know you'll have to wait days to get it shipped in.

Welcome aboard the reloading wagon.
 
I started out reloading for a 243 on one of the old Lee loader kits. You know, that came in box, and you used a hammer to operate it. I turned out some very accurate ammo using that little outfit. A few years later, I won the big buck contest at the place I was working at, and used the winnings to order a RCBS Reloader Special press, dies, powder scale and powder measure. I still use those today....along with much, much more. It is possible to reload on the "cheap", with the barest of necessities, but as you really get into it, you will see the need for more. I love reloading, and have a lot of supplies on hand, as well as some things I'll probably never use. As far as brands go, I like RCBS, but Lyman, Hornady, and Lee all make good stuff. Do your homework before you buy, and you should be okay.
 
If we know someone is serious all the boys at the gun club, we all come up with basic equipment, to get a person going with the basics, from our years of acquiring surplus equipment.
I gave a friend of mine an old Pacific C style press, he is still using it, and thanks me every time he sees me for getting him into reloading..

I enjoy reloading more than shooting sometimes!!
 
Buy used. Presses and dies, pretty much never wear out and you can get them for fractions of what they would cost new. Scales, never wear out. 1 grain weighed 1 grain 100 years ago, and will weigh 1 grain 100 years from now. Pretty much nothing, short of a nuclear blast, will damage most reloading equipment.

The only 'new' I've bought off the top of my head, were dies in calibers I couldn't find used. For them, buy lee. Less expensive and will do anything you need them to.
 
I wouldn't start with the Todd Kindler manual. Don't get me wrong it's a great reference but it's a bit advanced for a beginner and your paying for info you don't need. I doubt you need to know the pressures on a .17 Hee Bee lol. Buy a basic manual and learn it. Then there's a lot of people on here that can get you pointed in the right direction for bullet and powder selection on the 17-204. Oh and buy your stuff on eBay. Piecemeal is better so you can get what you really need.
 


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