Hevi Shot Dead coyote @ 100+ yards???

Well,if this guy shot one at say 50yds with Hevi T, and it worked perfect, why not try 60? If it worked perfect there, why not try 70?? Perfect there, then how about 80?? Wouldn't you?

On a previous post about Hevishot and coyotes, I mentioned I let my son take a shot at one (while we were duck hunting) at about 50-60yds,. His load was 11/8oz #4 Hevishot. The coyote took 2 rounds, and very slowly walked away, behind a cut in the land. We did not look for him that day, since he was on the other side a full canal. I went back yesterday (with my waders), and found the coyote. He made it about 75yds from POI and died.

Does this make me think #4 Hevi is a good coyote load at 50+yds?? Of course not. But having used it for several years, it continues to amaze me at its effectivness. Much, much better than lead. Hevi T, IMHO, will kill coyotes at 100yds, IF you get enough pellet strikes.

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K-22hornet,

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Well,if this guy shot one at say 50yds with Hevi T, and it worked perfect, why not try 60? If it worked perfect there, why not try 70?? Perfect there, then how about 80?? Wouldn't you?



No, I would not! I wouldn't use live targets for patterning. So I wouldn't be taking pot shots at unwounded live animals beyond the effective range of my equipment merely experimenting - BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE ALREADY PATTERNED MY GUN/CHOKE/LOAD AND WOULD KNOW IT'S EFFECTIVE RANGE! Do you sight-in your deer rifle before you go deer hunting? Same principle... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif

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On a previous post about Hevishot and coyotes, I mentioned I let my son take a shot at one (while we were duck hunting) at about 50-60yds,. His load was 11/8oz #4 Hevishot. The coyote took 2 rounds, and very slowly walked away, behind a cut in the land. We did not look for him that day, since he was on the other side a full canal. I went back yesterday (with my waders), and found the coyote. He made it about 75yds from POI and died.



What you don't know is how long it took for that coyote to die! Yeah, sure I know - it's only a coyote. That's pure BS, we owe any animal we decide to shoot at a better end than a slow, agonizing death. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif

And since it wasn't pushed it laid down quickly. If pursued it'd be back up and making away somewhere you can bet. In thick cover most likely it'd escape and evade and not be recovered. With my first sentence in mind, I think your pot shooting of that coyote in that situation was irresponsible. I'm sure you won't like this post, and you didn't ask me what I thought. However, you put it out there for the public and I feel strongly enough about it to offer my opinon. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
Well said Byron! I have done the same testing and agree with the results 100%. It is better than normal stuff but some of these claims are not the normal. Energy is the key and it slows way down fast in a shotgun no matter what comes out the barrel. One luck 00 pellet in the head of a deer will probably kill it at 150 yds.
 
GC,

I guess my point was not clear; IF you get enough pellet strikes (one would need to pattern to ascertain this), Hevi T will kill at very long ranges.

You are correct, in that I do not know for certain how long this coyote lived, and that we owe any animal a swift demise if we choose to shoot it. Judging from how slow it was walking away, I would say it was dead on its feet. I don't believe I have ever seen any thing run as fast as a coyote that has been shot at and missed.

Please do not get me wrong; I am not defending these guys, or my decision to let my son shoot. I was pointing out the effectiveness of Hevi. Take the results as you wish.

By the way, GC. Am I to understand you have NEVER, EVER stretched the range of your equipement???
 
I doubt size T shot of any kind would have the power to kill a coyote at 100 yards even if your pattern did stay together. I shot one running away at about 60 yards and shoot it right in the arse because I'm use to 00buck and thought it could penatrate through its pelvic and it didn't make it past the pelvic bone. I had to finish it off after it turned sideways and I shot it in the body.
 
I appreciate your attitude in your reply. You still must consider individual pellet energy and it's ability to penetrate at all reasonable angles. A few pellets scattered around don't make for a consistent killing pattern. An individual T Hevi-Shot couldn't have much energy at 100 yards, I'd bet certainly less than 10 foot pounds. So even if you managed to hold four pellets within the heart/lung region at such long range you've placed less than 40 foot pounds of energy on target. FORTY foot pounds isn't much now is it? Less than a high velocity .22 Long Rifle bullet at that range. Not many would recommend the .22LR for a 100 yard coyote killer. Yes, maybe with the perfect angle and no interference from brush or winds an occasional kill "might" be made. I'd imagine the reaction would be much the same as you and your son's shot on the 60 yard coyote with the duck load of four's. A clean kill at such ranges would be a stunt not likely to be duplicated consistently. Irresponsible IMHO... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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