Hevi-Shot "Dead Coyote" pattern tests
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GeorgiaJoe
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I would like to read a first hand result of shooting Hevi-Shot "Dead Coyote" 3.5" in a Mossberg 835. What choke tube shoots best etc....
GeorgiaJoe
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Well I ordered two boxes and they arrived yesterday. I took a 2X4 sheet of 3/8 plywood and headed for the range. Went to our 50yd range and tested the pattern and penetration.
Shooting 3.5" Heavi-shot "Dead Coyote" with a Mossberg 835 w/.695 Ulti-Full choke at 50 yd. I thought the pattern was good (could be better) but I thought I would measure how deep the shot penetration was. Nope...That stuff ripped clean through the plywood. That was one dead sheet of plywood.That was very impressive! Worth every cent! I'm going to buy a .675 H.S. Strut Undertaker and try @ 70 yds. Let you know what I get.
Shooting 3.5" Heavi-shot "Dead Coyote" with a Mossberg 835 w/.695 Ulti-Full choke at 50 yd. I thought the pattern was good (could be better) but I thought I would measure how deep the shot penetration was. Nope...That stuff ripped clean through the plywood. That was one dead sheet of plywood.That was very impressive! Worth every cent! I'm going to buy a .675 H.S. Strut Undertaker and try @ 70 yds. Let you know what I get.
GeorgiaJoe,
The one I shot at 30 yds was from my Super Black Eagle, with a 3 1/2" heavy shot #4 shot, full choke.
Again he dropped like a ton of bricks from a "mid-trot".
I did have to put a 22 round into him to finish the job but the hit was solid and he didn't move as I approached.
T
The one I shot at 30 yds was from my Super Black Eagle, with a 3 1/2" heavy shot #4 shot, full choke.
Again he dropped like a ton of bricks from a "mid-trot".
I did have to put a 22 round into him to finish the job but the hit was solid and he didn't move as I approached.
T
GeorgiaJoe
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I found out that the tightest H.S. Strut Choke for the 835 was .705. So I'm looking for a different brand. I saw a .680, I think it was a "Turkey Stomper"@ $60. Any body know a good quality choke for the 835 Ulti-mag in the .675-.680 range?
GeorgiaJoe
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Thanks Ron. Have you tried the Heavi-Shot "Dead Coyote" in it? Where can I find one? How much $?
Joe
Joe
ExCavTanker
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Georgia Joe,
I just went to the trulock website and they show the tight turkey chokes in the precision hunter line for your 835 ulti-mag, $40 for the non-ported model.
I just went to the trulock website and they show the tight turkey chokes in the precision hunter line for your 835 ulti-mag, $40 for the non-ported model.
GeorgiaJoe
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Thanks. I did a google search and found Hastings and went back to the Truluck website and figured out how to get the opening dia. The 835 has a bore dia. of a 10 ga (.775 from Mossberg) the Trulock PHM12680 has .094 constriction. Do the math and you get .681. From looking at their pages I would say that's probably as small as I should go with "T" size. If anyone has had success with Heavi-Shot "Dead Coyote" with something else let us know. I also saw on Bass Pro a Briley Heavi-Shot Extended Turkey that says .675 on the page but I wonder if the one for the 835 Ulti-Mag is that same size. What I like about Trulock is their 100% satisfaction guarantee. Ramble...ramble.....
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ExCavTanker
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Georgia Joe,
Since I love to search I found another possible tube for ya, Carlson Choke Tubes makes and extended turkey choke with a .675 size for the 835 Ulti-Mag, part #19870 for $26.50. The Carlson tubes are made of heat treated 17-4 stainless steel, the same as Trulock chokes. Carlson chokes also offer a lifetime warranty. I would seriously recommend something no less than .670 and no more than .675 for the Dead Coyote "T" shot to get the best long range pattern possible. Because of it's compostion, it can be treated just like lead shot for choke purposes. I can't wait for you to see the pattern results when you try one of those "tight" turkey chokes.
Since I love to search I found another possible tube for ya, Carlson Choke Tubes makes and extended turkey choke with a .675 size for the 835 Ulti-Mag, part #19870 for $26.50. The Carlson tubes are made of heat treated 17-4 stainless steel, the same as Trulock chokes. Carlson chokes also offer a lifetime warranty. I would seriously recommend something no less than .670 and no more than .675 for the Dead Coyote "T" shot to get the best long range pattern possible. Because of it's compostion, it can be treated just like lead shot for choke purposes. I can't wait for you to see the pattern results when you try one of those "tight" turkey chokes.
GeorgiaJoe
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Thanks.
When I did the search I found them a Cabela's for $24.99.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...requestid=10445
Just put in the order.While I was paying S&H had them add another box of shells. It added $1 to S&H.
When I did the search I found them a Cabela's for $24.99.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...requestid=10445
Just put in the order.While I was paying S&H had them add another box of shells. It added $1 to S&H.
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ExCavTanker
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Excellent! That's got to be the best deal on Dead Coyote I've seen yet, especially for mail order. I'm looking forward to the results when you pattern it.
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To tame the extra kick in my 835, I added weight to it. I took off my recoil pad and filled the stock up with lead 2's. That really made a difference in the felt recoil, especially when shooting those 3 1/2" turkey loads.
should work for the Dead Coyote load too.
Ron
To tame the extra kick in my 835, I added weight to it. I took off my recoil pad and filled the stock up with lead 2's. That really made a difference in the felt recoil, especially when shooting those 3 1/2" turkey loads.
should work for the Dead Coyote load too.
Ron
GeorgiaJoe
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!!This is Bad info,See 07/09 post!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smiliesmack.gif
Just got back from the range. The shoulder is sore. The results are in. The .695 Mossberg Ulti-full produces a tighter pattern than the .675. I don't doubt the .675 does better in a standard 12 ga but the Mossberg 835 has an oversized bore; I figure when traveling doun the .775 bore then compressed .1 then come out of the barrel their pushing off each other a little. I don't know. But what I do know is the proof is in the wood. Ishot the .675 at 50,72, and 100 yds. The 72 yd pattern was still lethal. The 100yd shot still went clean through the 3/8 plywood but only about 10 pellets hit the board with no decent pattern. I'll try to get some pic's on tomorrow. But now it's time to get ready to get on stand.
GAJoe
Just got back from the range. The shoulder is sore. The results are in. The .695 Mossberg Ulti-full produces a tighter pattern than the .675. I don't doubt the .675 does better in a standard 12 ga but the Mossberg 835 has an oversized bore; I figure when traveling doun the .775 bore then compressed .1 then come out of the barrel their pushing off each other a little. I don't know. But what I do know is the proof is in the wood. Ishot the .675 at 50,72, and 100 yds. The 72 yd pattern was still lethal. The 100yd shot still went clean through the 3/8 plywood but only about 10 pellets hit the board with no decent pattern. I'll try to get some pic's on tomorrow. But now it's time to get ready to get on stand.
GAJoe
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ExCavTanker
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Georgia Joe,
Thanks for posting your results. I would've bet the farm the .675 would produce a tighter pattern than the .695, but you may very well be correct about the larger bore of the 835. It appears the Dead Coyote load has a narrow window for choke sizes for each gun and if you go tighter or more open the long range pattern is upset. You indicated the 72 yard shot with the .675 was still lethal, just curious, how many pellets would've ended up in a coyote? While I wouldn't condone taking a 100 yard shot at a coyote with it, I'm sure there is still enough energy in the pellets to take one out if they hit the vitals. The way it's looking there are going to be a lot of coyotes dying of "tungsten-nickel" poisoning
Thanks for posting your results. I would've bet the farm the .675 would produce a tighter pattern than the .695, but you may very well be correct about the larger bore of the 835. It appears the Dead Coyote load has a narrow window for choke sizes for each gun and if you go tighter or more open the long range pattern is upset. You indicated the 72 yard shot with the .675 was still lethal, just curious, how many pellets would've ended up in a coyote? While I wouldn't condone taking a 100 yard shot at a coyote with it, I'm sure there is still enough energy in the pellets to take one out if they hit the vitals. The way it's looking there are going to be a lot of coyotes dying of "tungsten-nickel" poisoning
GeorgiaJoe
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How do you guys put pic's on here? I saw under properties that they have a web address other than PM. Is there some site that I can send these .jpg files easily to get them on here? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
GeorgiaJoe
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Yesterday when I went to the range to try my .675 I was in such a hurry to get to the range I forgot to take my .695 tube to compare at each distance. I saw the 50 yd shot wasn't as tight and drew my conclusions. Today I went back to try the .695 at 72 yds to see if it drops any at that range. (Man! did that hurt.) Was I surprized, the pattern was TERRIBLE. How can it shoot tighter at 50 yd and terrible at 72yd? The .675 at 50yd wasn't as tight but it was a more evenly spread pattern and still lethal at 72 yds. But I wouldn't use the .695 at 70+/-yds. I guess I spoke too soon. Hope anyone who read my 07/08 post reads this one to get the info corrected. SORRY! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif (I would have loved to try a couple more shots but my shoulder can't take it without some time to heal.) Go with the .675!
GAJoe
Yesterday when I went to the range to try my .675 I was in such a hurry to get to the range I forgot to take my .695 tube to compare at each distance. I saw the 50 yd shot wasn't as tight and drew my conclusions. Today I went back to try the .695 at 72 yds to see if it drops any at that range. (Man! did that hurt.) Was I surprized, the pattern was TERRIBLE. How can it shoot tighter at 50 yd and terrible at 72yd? The .675 at 50yd wasn't as tight but it was a more evenly spread pattern and still lethal at 72 yds. But I wouldn't use the .695 at 70+/-yds. I guess I spoke too soon. Hope anyone who read my 07/08 post reads this one to get the info corrected. SORRY! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused1.gif (I would have loved to try a couple more shots but my shoulder can't take it without some time to heal.) Go with the .675!
GAJoe
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ExCavTanker
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Excellent! This load seems to defy all logic when it comes to choke selection. I hope Hevi-Shot updates their website to reflect what more and more people are finding out. RE: shoulder pain, the people that haven't shot the Dead Coyote load are in for a real surprise when they touch that first one off For States like mine (Michigan) that have a no buckshot rule when hunting predators, this now seems to be the ONLY choice for maximum shotgun performance and a great alternative to those that can.
For States like mine (Michigan) that have a no buckshot rule when hunting predators, this now seems to be the ONLY choice for maximum shotgun performance and a great alternative to those that can.
GeorgiaJoe
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These are the patterns of 3.5" Hevi-Shot "Dead Coyote" from a Mossberg 835 Ulti-mag with .695 Mossberg Ulti-full choke tube and a .675 Carlson tube . Thanks for the helpwith the pic's crapshoot! Only one pellet bounced off the 3/8 plywood at 100 yds the rest went clean through. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif (Those are 3inch shoot-n-see bull's eyes.)
I took two shots at 100yds(see the zoom;checks are the 1st shot,circles the 2nd shot)
I took two shots at 100yds(see the zoom;checks are the 1st shot,circles the 2nd shot)
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