Hodgdon load data

Originally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: fw707All of the Hodgdon starting loads I've checked have been higher than any of the other book loads.

Not always.
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Yes.
Always.

Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: fw707All of the Hodgdon starting loads I've checked have been higher than any of the other book loads.

Not always.
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On one of my Creedmoor loads, Nosler lists a starting load that is the same as the Hodgdon max load.
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Maybe for what you personally have seen. But it isn't always that way. Read what I said about the Creedmoor loads.
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I use a Hodgdon manual quite a bit, probably more than the other manuals I have. I start a bit low, never near max, and work my way up. I haven't had any problems to date with a variety of calibers and bullets.
 
AiOriginally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: fw707Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: fw707All of the Hodgdon starting loads I've checked have been higher than any of the other book loads.

Not always.
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Yes.
Always.

Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: fw707All of the Hodgdon starting loads I've checked have been higher than any of the other book loads.

Not always.
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On one of my Creedmoor loads, Nosler lists a starting load that is the same as the Hodgdon max load.
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Maybe for what you personally have seen. But it isn't always that way. Read what I said about the Creedmoor loads.
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He clearly stated all the loads he's seen
Not all loads
Seems easy to understand to me
 
Originally Posted By: Buster Hindend

He clearly stated all the loads he's seen
Not all loads
Seems easy to understand to me

But when taken into the context of the thread and the original question it could have easily been mistaken for a generalized statement about Hodgdon data across the board. I was simply trying to clarify for anyone who may have been reading the thread and misunderstood his intentions. I don't understand the anger about someone trying to make a clarification about reloading data when we are all supposed to be helping each other? Not much can be said for a moderator here to have that attitude and come across like that. I'm certainly not impressed.
 
Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: Buster Hindend

He clearly stated all the loads he's seen
Not all loads
Seems easy to understand to me

But when taken into the context of the thread and the original question it could have easily been mistaken for a generalized statement about Hodgdon data across the board. I was simply trying to clarify for anyone who may have been reading the thread and misunderstood his intentions. I don't understand the anger about someone trying to make a clarification about reloading data when we are all supposed to be helping each other? Not much can be said for a moderator here to have that attitude and come across like that. I'm certainly not impressed.

I don't think anyone is impressed with your 'never wrong' attitude either.

You pick, pot or kettle?
 
Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: Buster Hindend

He clearly stated all the loads he's seen
Not all loads
Seems easy to understand to me

But when taken into the context of the thread and the original question it could have easily been mistaken for a generalized statement about Hodgdon data across the board. I was simply trying to clarify for anyone who may have been reading the thread and misunderstood his intentions. I don't understand the anger about someone trying to make a clarification about reloading data when we are all supposed to be helping each other? Not much can be said for a moderator here to have that attitude and come across like that. I'm certainly not impressed.


No anger here
You felt compelled to "clarify" FW707's post
I felt compelled to "clarify" yours

See its all good
 
Originally Posted By: Hidalgo
I don't understand the anger about someone trying to make a clarification about reloading data when we are all supposed to be helping each other? Not much can be said for a moderator here to have that attitude and come across like that. I'm certainly not impressed.

Are you angry? I'm certainly not.
I replied only because I saw no need for you to "clarify" my personal experiences with Hodgdon loading data. I was not stating a fact, or even an opinion-just a limited personal experience.

As far as your comment about my being a moderator, we do not give up our privilege to post as members when we accept the terms of employment. Also, my status as a moderator, or a member, does not obligate me to "impress" you.

And one last thing-for you to mention the fact that I'm a moderator in an effort to insult me and/or the website, in a conversation that has nothing to do with Predatormasters, was totally uncalled for.
My opinions and comments as a member are mine, and mine alone.
 
Originally Posted By: shawn@moWhy did it put beep,I didn't say a anything bad?? Huh wierd

You had one to many s in the word "as"
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760Manuals and published data are only guides. It's been said countless times. Always pay attention to the your firearm and how the pressure is being handled. The max in each book is only max for the rifle or test barrel being used. Yours could be significantly lower or higher than what the book says.

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Information that everyone needs to remember and new reloaders really need to know.
 
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Originally Posted By: shelton573Soooooo....Yay or nay on trusting Hodgdon's data? Hah.

Shelton

I trust it and have had no issues over the past 30 years or so using it. Top end loads in any book are to be approached slowly. I do use them as a guide and the numbers are not handed down from the mountain cut in stone.

Many guys here shoot wildcats that there is no data on. Some fellows are intellgent and some well, lets just say they would be selling wolf tickets if they were in prison. Experience comes over time and you have to step out and do the work to amass that.

Greg
 
Originally Posted By: GLShooterOriginally Posted By: shelton573Soooooo....Yay or nay on trusting Hodgdon's data? Hah.
Shelton

I trust it and have had no issues over the past 30 years or so using it. Top end loads in any book are to be approached slowly. I do use them as a guide and the numbers are not handed down from the mountain cut in stone.
Greg

Well said.
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Originally Posted By: fw707

And one last thing-for you to mention the fact that I'm a moderator in an effort to insult me and/or the website, in a conversation that has nothing to do with Predatormasters, was totally uncalled for.
My opinions and comments as a member are mine, and mine alone.


I wasn't trying to "insult" you. If I had been it would have been very unmistakable. As for my statement about you as a moderator being uncalled for ... perhaps it was. But I have always been of the feeling that management should be held to higher standards than the general membership. You can't be management only at designated times and when you see fit. With the title comes a certain responsibility and accountability. But, perhaps I am wrong about that.

Maybe we just need to put this behind us and I'll refrain from commenting on your posts in the future.
 
Originally Posted By: HidalgoOriginally Posted By: fw707

And one last thing-for you to mention the fact that I'm a moderator in an effort to insult me and/or the website, in a conversation that has nothing to do with Predatormasters, was totally uncalled for.
My opinions and comments as a member are mine, and mine alone.


I wasn't trying to "insult" you. If I had been it would have been very unmistakable. As for my statement about you as a moderator being uncalled for ... perhaps it was. But I have always been of the feeling that management should be held to higher standards than the general membership. You can't be management only at designated times and when you see fit. With the title comes a certain responsibility and accountability. But, perhaps I am wrong about that.

Maybe we just need to put this behind us and I'll refrain from commenting on your posts in the future.

The first thing you need to do is to "refrain" from lecturing me on your "feeling" about management.

I told you that being a moderator has nothing to do with my posting as a member of PM. For you to reply with those comments tells me that you didn't read my post, you didn't comprehend it at all, or you are intending only to continue the moderator issue for the sole purpose of argument and veiled and condscending insults.

Keep your lectures to yourself. I don't need them as a member, or as a moderator.

You can "refrain" all you want to.
I'm done with your arrogance.
 
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