Hornady 12 guage pattern questions

I don't waste my time on lead BB for coyotes any longer.
Have few fox anymore,so I run federal 4buck as my go to load . If price was no object, I'd run TSS and never look back.

PS, DC T shot is good stuff. I've shot a 100 plus rounds of it, but finally ran out do the cost. Never paid full price for the stuff,never will.
 
Originally Posted By: WilgabeastI may have just found some dead coyote rounds online . I’m very confident in those loads through the Carlson’s dead coyote choke to 50-60 yards .

There is some for sale in the classifieds ...hint
 
I have ran extra full choke to various turkey chokes with Federal BB 3" buffered copper plated to #4 buck.

Chokes sure can be different.

Browning fixed chokes run small for size, I have had Modified BPS that patterns like full chokes.

Oddly enough, I have a remington 11/87 that patterns 00 and 000 buck 100% in a 20" circle at 40 yards...deer loads. The same choke is 24" or so with Rem 3" #4 Buck, Federal and Winchester buffered is tighter than the Remington.
 
I use a kicks .670 in in my beretta's for lead BB. I have a case of federl 1
7/8oz 12 gauge BB loads I use through it. It will put 6 pellets in a 5 inch circle at 60 yards pretty consistently. Ive.dumped coyotes out to 65 yards with the Federal lead BB load. I bought a few boxes of the hornady stuff 4 years ago but never load tested them. I can do the same to 6 pellets in a 5" cirle at 60 yards with Remington #4 buck and a kicks .680. I have approx 16 plus chokes and the Kicks group the best. My factory chokes dont group BB or buck shot worth a darn. GC turned me onto kicks a couple decades ago.
 
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Originally Posted By: WilgabeastI think I finally got some Hevi shot loads coming my way and I know how those pattern so I’m happy and confident in my shotgun again

EMI "Hevi-Shot" just came out with two more new loads, New and Improved Hevi-X 10.1g/cc and Hevi-XII 12g/cc.

EMI now makes about 12 to 15 different loads that all have Hevi in the name. EMI's goal is to confuse their customers.

What is the exact name of the Hevi shot loads that you have coming your way? I am pretty sure that the good 12g/cc loads like Hevi-Shot Goose, Hevi-Shot Duck and Hevi-Shot Dead Coyote loads are all selling for well over $4.00 per shell.
 
Originally Posted By: derbyacresbobOriginally Posted By: WilgabeastI think I finally got some Hevi shot loads coming my way and I know how those pattern so I’m happy and confident in my shotgun again

EMI "Hevi-Shot" just came out with two more new loads, New and Improved Hevi-X 10.1g/cc and Hevi-XII 12g/cc.

EMI now makes about 12 to 15 different loads that all have Hevi in the name. EMI's goal is to confuse their customers.

What is the exact name of the Hevi shot loads that you have coming your way? I am pretty sure that the good 12g/cc loads like Hevi-Shot Goose, Hevi-Shot Duck and Hevi-Shot Dead Coyote loads are all selling for well over $4.00 per shell.

bob, if he is talking about the shells he is getting from me, they are the "dead coyote" shells in the purple with goldish border colored box. it is the 12g/cc stuff. the good ones.

he is also getting some of the 12g/cc remington wingmaster HD shells.
 
Stop teasing me!!!! Lol. I got crap for posting that I dropped a coyote at 109 yards with HD BB along with my kicks .670 and my A390. Broke both front and rear left side legs with the shot. I aimed about a foot above its head. The yote did get up after a few seconds of trying to rock back and forth. It started crawling away. My buddy finished it off with his AR10. I still have a few shells of Remington HD BB, BBB, and T left. Way better than Heavy shot imo.
 
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I remember when Bass Pro Shops was closing out the 2-3/4" Remington Ultimate Home Defense HD 1-1/4 oz BB loads for $9.98 and then $7.98 for a box of ten shells.
IMG_7754 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/156463377@N08/, on Flickr

I think I ended up getting at least 15 cases of the Rem HD BB loads and maybe two cases of the Rem HD 2-3/4" UHD 1-1/4 oz #2 and #4 duplex loads.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2068797

Since they were 2-3/4" shells most guys were not interested in them. I removed the Rem HD BB shot from most of them and reloaded 3" 1-1/2 oz loads with the HD BB shot.

The 2-3/4" Rem HD loads with 56 pellets per shell were actually a very good coyote load. I would much rather shoot 56 Rem HD BB pellets at coyotes instead of 41 or 42 lead number 4 buck at coyotes.
 
Bob, is that the same BB shot as Natchez had a few years back? I bought 30 lbs of that, wish I'd have bought a bunch more. It makes an awesome, economical, every stand coyote load. Looks like weld slag, but performs on coyote very well.

I took all of these with it in one morning a few years ago. Before the Dry Age.

20161125_Coyote%20Hunt-1.jpg


- DAA
 
Originally Posted By: derbyacresbob
The 2-3/4" Rem HD loads with 56 pellets per shell were actually a very good coyote load. I would much rather shoot 56 Rem HD BB pellets at coyotes instead of 41 or 42 lead number 4 buck at coyotes.

you aint kidding they are actually a very good coyote load. i have killed a bunch of coyotes with those exact shells.

i like to have one of them in the chamber and 3" loads in the magazine. usually the first shot at a coyote he11 bent on eating the wabbit is the closest. the 2 3/4" shell was all that was needed on 85% of them.

doing it that way saved blasting the higher dollar rounds when they really werent needed.
 
DAA, that shot that Natchez had was old Remington Hevi-Shot. I bought 60 pounds of it and should have bought twice that much.

Natchez called it size #2 and BB shot. I ran it through 3 different sized screens and came up with sizes #1, B, BB and BBB.

IMG_1707 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/156463377@N08/, on Flickr
In the above picture the round copper colored shot is Remington Wingmaster HD BB shot. The ugly dark shot that is in many different sizes is Hevi-Shot 12g/cc shot that came out of a 3" Hevi-Goose B shot load.
 
You must have won the PowerBall to be able to spring $5/shell...LOL. I have shot much of what the guys are recommending. These are some of the best shotgun predator guys around so any advice they give has been proven to put fur on the ground.

Personally, I look for at least a 25% hit ratio as my minimum for deciding to go with a specific size shot, manufacturer, etc.

I have personally used Dead Coyote out of one of the older Dead Coyote chokes with a lot of success. My personal best was 78 yards.

I have also had luck with the Dead Coyote choke and #4 Remington buckshot and BB loads. Not so much with the Federal #4 buckshot. It spreads a bit more and was less consistent than I wanted.

As for the Hornady, not so much with the Dead Coyote choke. As the guys have said, the flight control wads don't like the Dead Coyote chokes. In fact, I had a wad stick into a fox that AzBushman and I called in and shot. Looked like the "wings" on the wad were delayed in deployment, probably from the choke. When we switched to the recommended choke size we were able to effectively drop coyotes.

IMG_2593 by Jason Mosler, on Flickr
 


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