Hound or Cur Hound

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I am considering getting a dog specificly for Bobcat. I know that the cur hounds trail silently and I think this would be a huge advantage for bobcat anyway lets hear from both sides who owns what and how much success are you having on Bobcats? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I ran a bobcat on tuesday and the dogs went 5 hours before they ran into the cat, (I have ran the same track all day before without jumping the cat). I dont think you want a silent dog out there running that long, unless you have lots and lots of vehicle access and really good collars. If you are hunting rough country your dogs will run out of radio range while you are chasing a bouncing signal, of course they sometimes get that done even if they bark on trail.
 
I am on the other end of the deal, I have had the best success with a semi silent or silent dog on bobcats, that is the way to go. I run in alot of rocks and really rough country and believe the less the spotted cat knows the less he can pull on you and your dogs. Element of suprise is what catches most of the bobcats for me. I have three main dogs I run bobcats with two are silent until jumped and was is semi I silent until jumped. These dogs have caught more cats than some of the other really babbly mouth dogs I have run with. But like I said that has worked for ME, every bit of terrain is different so use what works best for you,
MYK
 
I hunt with curs ,silent on track never run them on cats but it seems to me being silent would be a large advantage on bobs.Should cut down on the length of the chase as the cat doesn't know they are coming.Mine kill over half the coon we get before they get to a tree.Another thing at lest in my experience is that most good curs will run with there head up as opposed to there nose to the ground like most hounds.They are able to push the track faster.
Bluetrapper
 
Some of it is what your after, I have a good friend and well respected hunting guide who swears by curs and likes the ones who run silent for bobcats. Catches a TON of cats, however if your like me and the main reason I'm out there is to catch fur, BUT I also want to hear the music, thta is a big part of the fun for me. If I was going to get a dog and only worried about catching alot of bobcats then I would probably get a silent dog.
 
I run coyotes with running walkers and I believe that it would save time on your part by getting hounds that bark instead of silent dogs. This way you can hear them when they are on a track and not always having to use your tracking equipment. I love listening to a hot race, and to me thats the whole idea. But you may have a different idea or way you want to hunt than I do. Because like I said i hunt coyotes with hounds and not bobcats. Just my thoughts, see ya, MOyotehunter
 
Definately hounds, although I do like cur dogs, You need to be able to listen to em dont ya? Heck that is the most exciting part of the hunt. You can get hounds that are not necessarily open trailers, in fact that is common among some of the breeds and bloodlines. The most common silent trailers I have hunted with in my experience is the walker breed. Myself I raise and train blueticks, and the line I have will open on a track as soon as it is warm enough to run, and you will hear their song until you meet them at the tree.
Blue Creek Blueticks
Good luck
 
Thanks for all the replies so far sounds like you do what works for you. Keep em coming I will be doing some more research and waiting to make the right decision.
 
im a hound man my self...dont care for them small ones...like the one person said not all hounds are open on track just enought to let u know where they are...but if u live where i live...u dont want a small dogs in rear end deep snow...now there are some people that say them little guys have twice as much grit as the big ones, not im not shure thats true with all of them but that could get dangrous for the little guys....
 
My male is 95 pounds when he is in huntin shape, during the winter he gets up around 110-115 to keep warm. My females however are smaller....around 45 pounds in the winter. I like the speed of my smaller dogs in the summer when we are coon hunting, but my big male gets through it all....no matter what the weather....I like them big dogs too! Prolly gonna raise a litter of pups next summer if there is anyone lookin.
 
I think it will depend on how you hunt and where.
there is no don't a silent dog will get closer to the cat before he knows it but most of the cats i have run don't stay that far ahead of the dogs depending on the cover. In open country they can really leave a dog but if its thick there usauly right close. I hunt mostly on snow and ride or walk around untill i find a track to put my dog on. if not with a cold nosed dog you can go all day on a back track in the snow. when a track is 3 or 4 hours old it smells just as good both ways. the tracks i run are almost always at least 2 hour old tracks or alot more. i want my dog barking so i can follow untll he jumps. when i have to hunt bare ground i hunt mostly rocks where i try to get the dog in where he can pop one out. if you are hunting bare ground where you are running farly hot tracks to start with a silent dog might be ok or even an advantage. but if your looking to run last nights track in the snow you better have a cold nose dog with a good barker so you can stay in the hunt. other wise the chase may be 1 mi away running hot and you won't know it. you can stay on him with a tracker but if your in hilly country or big mountians its hard even with a tracker to know exactly where there at or how far off. where will you be hunting and what kind of ground?
 
I have a ladner BMC that it going on two years old. He has really turned into a good dog. I had my doubts but it finally "Clicked" and I have had dogs all my life and I can honestly cay that pound for pound he is the nastiest piece of dog I have ever owned. Not only can he woop a full grown bore coon in record time without hesitation but he would die to protect me from anything that was trying to do me harm. Like I said I had my doubts but I think i'll keep my BMC. Oh ya and He has treed about 20 house cats...none survived..
 
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Oh ya and He has treed about 20 house cats...none survived..



He killed them in the tree? You mean you shook them out I assume....
 
I'm with you Duane, was reading along then about half way through I had to scroll back to the top to check the start date. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Oh well, still pretty good reading.
I personally like the cur dogs for most hunting, seem to be a more "people" (just likes to be your bud)dog. Not what everyone is after for a hunting dog, I realize. But then again we only hunt a few months out of the year and the rest of the time its nice to have a dog that just likes being around you over most anything else.
 
I am biass,I hunt year round,and I want my dogs to chase when sent,or "laydown" when not hunting.I like that I can "flip the switch" in my dogs.I run 10 dogs and they all can be loose in the yard,and will bite,or come back when told.I am not saying my way is right,but it works for me with my dogs.
 


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