how many have shot domestic dogs while out hunting?

You sure are a straight shooter Dave. I respect that. I've called em in but thought I was a little too close to civilization to pop em. If I'm out far enough, no collar, it's a coyote. Had a guy last year complaining about a pack of them tearing his cattle up. Haven't got back up that way yet but I will.
 
Originally Posted By: ccinsoI just don't understand why we gotta keep beatin this
horse!! I'm not going to tell you if and when its ok
thats for you to decide, just make sure you think it
through. I will say sometimes its warranted, but also
a world of hurt could come of it to.

But for goshsakes its not something to brag about or even
to discuss on the net.

just my 2 cents
casey

Exactly.

There MAY have been something to learn about discussing the subject the first 10 times it came up this year. Nevermind the elusion to breaking the law.
 
Anybody with any sense can surely tell when it is appropriate to take a feral/domestic K9 when hunting. I am not sure why it would have to be discussed at length
 
If you don't have the sense to make a decision on what is legal, fair, sporting, etc. when it comes to domestic/feral dogs, no internet forum or open discussion is going to fix it. If you care about the particulars, check into local laws and conduct yourself accordingly.

If you think you're tough because you shoot dogs of any kind, domestic, feral or flat-out wild, then there are probably better places to thump your chest than a highly respected, very visible, public HUNTING forum.
 
wow, looks like i pissed off a few of you by starting this thread. i am kind of new here so i was unaware of it being a thread before. if you are worried about what anti-hunter spies think of this thread, then we should probably shut down the entire site. they dont like hunting no matter how ethical, humane, or otherwise politely we go about our hobby. yes, i know shooting domestic dogs could be take the wrong way by others, so dont go off on some tirade about how it could be bad for hunting in general. but seriously, if this thread is so bad for our sport, how about the 34 or something pages about baiting? there is enough there to keep the anti's busy for years. motion detectors to wake up lazy hunters, shooting from the house, red lights on the bait so we can see them, [beeep] baiting alone is unethical to most. in my state baiting bears got put to a vote in 1994 and baiting was outlawed. i live in anti hunter central, aspen is about as liberal as any place gets. i do my best to stay under the radar, do i have to stay under the radar on a hunting forum too????


on a side note, i just went hunting this afternoon where i had seen the domestic dog tracks all over the place. what do i find but a dead beef cow about a week old, putting its death about the same day as all the dog tracks. coincidence? maybe, but the rancher that owns the cattle thanked me for shooting the 2 dogs i got several years ago. one dead cow is cash out of pocket for him.
 
6724, its not a matter of you upsetting members of this forum. It is a matter of giving the anti hunters ammunition. I personally don't like to give them anything to use against the legal hunting fraternity. If a farmer or rancher has trouble with dogs killing or molesting his livestock, he can get relief from that problem from the authorities. If the relief he gets is from a predator hunter, fine and good from his point of view, but we don't need to publicize it. As I understand it, these hunting forums are to share information about hunting techniques and equipment used.
 
6724, you are correct about the antis, we won't get their approval on any thread going on this board.
This topic has been discussed before but so has several others.

Keep it civil and respect the opinion of others and we'll all have a great day. for those who are tired of the topic or get too wound up about it, turn the page. No one changes anyone's mind by yelling and name calling. So far we aren't headed down that path.

We aren't talking about killing someone's pets, we are talking about feral dogs or dogs that run in packs harassing livestock and wildlife. It is a serious problem in some areas and perhaps someone has some insight in how to deal with it or how it is dealt with LEGALLY in their area.
 
Sometimes it IS (irresponsible) people's pets.

When I was a kid on the ranch in AK we shot any dogs other than our own on sight. They were mostly pets from the squatters camp across the river, but they were running our cattle. After plenty of ignored warnings, we started shooting them.

On private land I generally ask the landowner about both dogs and cats, and have been told variously, shoot on sight, shoot dogs but not cats (and vise versa), don't shoot anything with a collar, etc.

As long as it's legal, I'll shoot anything the landowner wants me to.

On public land, it depends on circumstances. On several occasions I've called in dogs within a few miles of neighborhoods that were obviously pets. No problem, give them an ear scratch/hello and move on to the next stand.

Out in the boonies it's usually pretty easy to tell if it's a feral dog or not from his behaviour. If he's got a collar on and is glad to see you, he's someone's pet. If he's aggressive and threatening...

A little common sense goes a long way, and of course you should be aware of and follow the laws in your state.
 
I seldom shoot cats when I'm calling coyotes. I find that most loads I use tear them up pretty bad and they aren't hardly worth cleaning them for what you get off them.
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Originally Posted By: ccinsoI just don't understand why we gotta keep beatin this
horse!! I'm not going to tell you if and when its ok
thats for you to decide, just make sure you think it
through. I will say sometimes its warranted, but also
a world of hurt could come of it to.

But for goshsakes its not something to brag about or even
to discuss on the net.

just my 2 cents
casey

well said
 
When I was growing up in CA there was a law saying that ANY loose dog (pet or not) found on cattle/sheep ranches or farms could be shot on sight. That was due to the growing population of irresponsible pet owners who's dogs were harrassing/killing farm stock then going home like nothing happened.
This was a big problem with all the new communities springing up in farm country in the 60s-70s.
 
In MN its legal during certain months for the public to shoot them if chasing deer or other wildlife. And for me and other law enoforcement officals we are allowed to shoot them anytime we see it happing. Right when I started I had to shoot several that were chasing after a kid on the edge of town.

I watched a pair of big shepards during muzzleloading push some willows like hunters do. They pushed out a fawn right in front of me, shoot one and left the other go. Needless to saw the other one didn't chase deer anymore. They were also along ways from home.

I have also called in dogs two different times. The first pair I called in were very wary and circled and went down wind and took off, only later did I find out that I should of shot them as they were deer chasers.

The other was just a month ago, he came right out of a crp field of howling coyotes so he was lucky that I let him come to 50yds as it was getting dark other wise he might not be alive.
 
Originally Posted By: possumal6724, its not a matter of you upsetting members of this forum. It is a matter of giving the anti hunters ammunition. I personally don't like to give them anything to use against the legal hunting fraternity. If a farmer or rancher has trouble with dogs killing or molesting his livestock, he can get relief from that problem from the authorities. If the relief he gets is from a predator hunter, fine and good from his point of view, but we don't need to publicize it. As I understand it, these hunting forums are to share information about hunting techniques and equipment used.


well said!
 
Let's make this a photo contest! Toy breeds welcome!


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I abide by the landowner's wishes where legal, but I do not want to shoot anyone's pet / sporting dog.
 
My daughter's dog started running the neighbors cattle and I couldn't break her of it. I hated to do it but I had to give the dog away. I would have completely understood if the cattle owner had taken a shot at her.

Before we had coyote around here, we had feral dog packs. They were just as much of a threat to livestock as the coyote are now.

Just last night I heard a group hunt on the neighbors property that didn't last too long. I really hope they didn't get one of his calves.
 
Most of the areas I hunt are close to homes, so I've called a few dogs some prob pets some prob feral. It's hard to draw that line.

I won't shoot a dog unless it was threating me or someone else or if it was killing my poultry. I wouldn't shoot one if it was chasein a deer unless it started attacking it.

I have a dog and i know that sometimes dogs sneak out and I sure as heck wouldn't want my dog killed if it accidently got loose.

Cats now are a differnt story....

~Bryan
 
I think I've called in more sheep dogs than coyotes... Never even thought of shooting one of them.

Was on a late season elk hunt and had a dog without a collar come at us very aggressively. It was bad enough that I raised the rifle, but he broke off at about 10 feet. I mentioned it to the land owner and his respone was that if it was a white dog (which it was) I should have shot it, because it's killed several of his sheep. He said he missed a shot at it once and it wouldn't get near him again.
 
I have gone back and forth on this topic for years until one day I had an epiphony. I was calling on a piece of property that was adjacent to a goat/sheep ranch and called in what was very evidently a wild dog. Got glass on him and just as I was about to pull the trigger, a glint of light reflected off of something on it's neck, turned out to ba collar that was invisible to the naked eye at any range. Didn't shoot, the dog loped right up to me and was as sweet as could be. Turns out this dog was a sheep dog that virtually lived with the sheep herd, never got groomed and had little socialization with humans. In my head this is what happened, the dog was only doing what it was trained to do, it was doing it's job tending to the flocks when it heard a distress call of something and went to investigate, what if it was investigating to ensure it wasn't one of the goats? I mean the pasture the goats were in was less than 1000yds away. After that a dog need only fear me if it's threatening me or god forbid it looks just like a coyote.

I'm not chastizing anyone, just telling you what happened to me. Like I said, I've been on both sides of this fence.


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