How many of you are using AI for hobbies and other things?

I won't use it don't trust it as well as the web in general. I remember the early years of Google, I done some SEO, built our website and could find about anything anywhere with EASE. Now a days Google is dumbed DOWN, bought out with paid advertising, REGIONAL, tracking everyone, with all sorts of algorithms. Somebody had to program AI, don't trust it
 
I'll concur with @Hunter55
Remember YOU and your PII is the product.

I think it's terrible that something can't be released and used for the benefit of the masses. But there is no free lunch.
 
Starting to learn how to use it at work. Pretty much have no choice. It's been made pretty clear, learn to use it and use it well, or expect to be replaced by someone who does use it and use it well.

I will say, there is AI, and then there is AI. And it's a pretty broad spectrum. Just saying "AI" kind of doesn't even mean anything anymore. It's like saying "gun". What kind of gun? Cap gun, pistol, machine gun, artillery? What kind of AI? LLM? Generative? Free? Paid but publicly available? Very expensive and not available to the public? Not available to the public at any price? Comparing the free ChatGPT and CoPilot type stuff to super expensive AI used by big corporations (like the one I work for) and gov't is like comparing a fly swatter to a .50 BMG. And no big company that utilizes data isn't using it. If they aren't using it themselves they are paying companies like the one I work for to use it for them. Our clients include, the Fed, the CIA, the FBI, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, many huge insurance companies, many huge banks, many state and local gov'ts.

Love it, hate it or just don't care. It's here to stay and it's changing the face of business, work, the economy and the balance of world power at an astonishing rate and it is just going to keep accelerating. The industry I work in - software development - is being transformed by AI so fast I don't even try to keep up with what is happening. I don't have time to consume that much constantly changing information. Nobody does. Companies use AI to try and keep abreast of the changes being wrought by AI.

- DAA
 
Yeah they are starting to use AI at my work too. Thank goodness I will be retiring in a couple years. I have some property in rural Central Utah, I’m going to to sell my place here in SLC and build a new home there and live the quiet life. I’m just tired of traffic, and all the building going on here. Its definitely not like it was when I was a kid growing up.

Good Hunting Chad
 
My main use is for hobbies and preventative maintenance on vehicles and such. It is a dream come true for me. I used to have to scroll through pages of BS forums and such, and fast watch multiple youtube videos trying to get good information. This stream lines it for me. It also, for the most part is very accurate. I asked it what the easiest bullets to tune for 7x57 Mauser was last night. I was surprised by the clear, good information.

I have used it for carb jetting on my dirt bike, changing transmission fluid on my truck, and on and on.
 
so the experience I have with it are in the real estate space. I do some work for a development company. We use it for templates and to basically provoke things we don't have to think about when starting from scratch for something. We can ask it to proform a financial analysis on a project. it provides a report that we review, change things that are incorrect. and go back and ask it more questions to provoke the detail we want, Or manually ad the detail we want. We can ask it questions about zoning and engineering, All these things we can separately review and study like we always could but the time it would take would be substantial. It kinda like having a bunch of researchers having already looked for the info. sometimes and even often the results are a complete foul up! But other times the results are quite good and just need a tweak or two.

The key I think is learning how to provoke it to get the detail you want, Then taking the time to tweak the results to suit what you are looking for. I am NOT very tech savvy but I don't wanna be left behind so bad that is impairs me and costs me money or prevents me from making money I could.

I see AI changing real estate quite a bit, for instance combine it with cell phone location data. Businesses will be able to quickly identify where there is a demand for their locations and where and what locations are viable for them. We will see how well this statement ages. but I don't think its going to be as huge a deal as many people think. I still think there is always going to be an element that AI will never ever capture. AI will always be "ackley improved" to me though
 
Steve, interesting that you use "provoke", I like it.

in the software industry I retired from, we had used the term "requirements",
where something like "it shall perform regardless of input errors, must be failsafe, and shall be validated by XYZ"

my first go at AI was to write a python program to extract numeric chronograph data into a flat file
for use in an existing spreadsheet log. I am not proficient in python so AI was my crutch.
the AI did what I told it, but my requirements where vague and inadequate.
So it (AI) taught my to spell out the requirements in better detail, and after a few iterations, I was happy.
 
Bob_Atl said:
Steve, interesting that you use "provoke", I like it.

in the software industry I retired from, we had used the term "requirements",
where something like "it shall perform regardless of input errors, must be failsafe, and shall be validated by XYZ"

my first go at AI was to write a python program to extract numeric chronograph data into a flat file
for use in an existing spreadsheet log. I am not proficient in python so AI was my crutch.
the AI did what I told it, but my requirements where vague and inadequate.
So it (AI) taught my to spell out the requirements in better detail, and after a few iterations, I was happy.
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the idea is to get the program to give you ideas that you might not have thought of as well. This often happens when it spits out an initial answer. it defiantly can help clarify what you actually might want to use. For instance if we ask for a financial model on a self storage facility. Maybe it has a different way of factoring vacancy Or accounts for average loss by damage or vandalism and its able to back up its numbers on the vandalism by looking at crime statistics for actual crime that happened for this cause to similar facilities. Thats just an example but I doubt many have a model that factors in vandalism, I know our company doesn't proforma that in our internal financial models. OR maybe it doesn't model future rental increases correctly, so we querry it again and try to get a model that is more accurate by additional questions.

to me AI is an aid rather than a replacement. but the time it saves can be HUGE. We have seen it be able to take an hours worth of reviews and checks down to 5 minutes in some cases. We have also added things that AI showed us an altered the outcome of what we thought we wanted.
 
steve garrett said:
We will see how well this statement ages. but I don't think its going to be as huge a deal as many people think. I still think there is always going to be an element that AI will never ever capture. AI will always be "ackley improved" to me though
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I hope you are right.

Personally, I whole heartedly believe it's going to be the most profound transformation of society, civilization, life as we know it that the human race has ever experienced. And that it's going to happen faster than any of us can really grasp.

Realize, I see CoPilot and ChatGPT as milk toast broke dick "free" AI. That's not the AI I'm talking about. But those are only free because they are serving the purpose of the "real" AI that is gathering data and learning 24/7/365. You and I are never going to get to see behind the curtains of the big, heavy duty, industrial, trillion dollar AI. But it's going to shape everything.

- DAA
 
I guess I should add, since I'm so "optimistic" about the subject - NOT.

Forums like this are going to be killed deader than disco by the "free AI". Most of the answers it provides are scraped from data gathered from forums like this. It won't be too long, until people stop coming to the forums, but instead ask their AI assistant the questions they used to ask here.

In one way, that will kill the golden goose for AI. But I believe AI will come up with new more effective ways to mine the gold...

- DAA
 
DAA said:
. It won't be too long, until people stop coming to the forums, but instead ask their AI assistant the questions they used to ask here.
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Yeah, that crossed my mind also.

I appreciate all the folks on this forum. It is the only firearms related forum I visit. I have tried and tried on others, but find most to be toxic, negative and full of B.S. information. Like poison for your brain.

We live in a world of fully mature sales and propaganda.

Glad we can get out of cell phone range and go hunting.

Back to the basics of wind direction, natural cover and strategic vantage points.

I am back to loading for 6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western and target 223 loads.
 
IT definitely wont be good for society. Just like FB is a huge dragnet of info. The GOV actually was about to roll out a version of FB, it got cancelled a week later I heard FB was rolled out. We will either go the way of the Jetsons or Terminator.
 
DAA said:
I guess I should add, since I'm so "optimistic" about the subject - NOT.

Forums like this are going to be killed deader than disco by the "free AI". Most of the answers it provides are scraped from data gathered from forums like this. It won't be too long, until people stop coming to the forums, but instead ask their AI assistant the questions they used to ask here.

In one way, that will kill the golden goose for AI. But I believe AI will come up with new more effective ways to mine the gold...

- DAA
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I don't see it that way. I think some come to forums to ask questions. But in my view you come here to learn about what questions even need to be asked. You learn about things you don't even know you wanted to learn about. I do agree certain forums like say f150 forums I visit sometimes. I normally go there to solve a problem. OR look to see what things are problems, in which case an AI solution is a replacement.

something about my personality. Some people on forums, not so much here but other ones I visit probably see me as argumentative. heck most probably don't like me, LOL. but what I am really doing is testing my own conclusions under the weight of others opinions. I feel I have a unique way of handling negative feedback. I take it in, process it, then ask is any of this a valid criticism. Did I miss anything, has anyone poked holes in my conclusion. The only problem with this is I expect others to be able to handle it that way. which they almost always don't. Instead when challenged they back into a corner and start changing the subject and finding other crap to lob at me. My wife is the classic case of this. The entire kitchen sink comes out and stuff that wasn't a problem now is. I have learned to avoid that as I get older.

as a kid I was told I had learning disabilities and had to go to different classes than the rest of my friends. I guess in a way negative feedback I just grew up with, thats the only thing I can think of that makes me that way. but thats the long way of saying why I personally like to visit forums. its a test of my notions and ideas.
 
Nothing new under the sun. Used 'AI' on several projects. Abbott used it in the ADC500. Machine to optically count and classify blood cells and blasts. Put blood sample on a slide, stain it and take a picture. Computer counted 'objects'. In the 80s! Used it for weapons detection in metal detectors, in the 80s.
 
those of you with a chatgp whatever thingy should run a test. ask it what the best way to hunt coyotes is, and best sounds to use in June. then July, etc...

do as it says and see if it works.
 


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