howa hogue 223 twist rate

To date I have 11 Rifles that finish consistently in the top 10. Tubbs builds his own and he is a shooter. He wins a lot. That's a good example. When he shoots 5.56 he shoots 70 to 80 grn bullets in a 1 and 7 barrel.
 
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No...I am looking at data they publish using the very same calculator you post. How do I know this? I have called them and verified.
 
Going to watch a comedy. You all have me laughing see ya. Have fun shooting and try to keep an open mind. What is published and what is for real is out there. Since all the ballistic calculators bring very similar results, I would try it before I knock it. Also, you should check your barrel twists with a Hawkeye. These are all things I do and I do well. See you all later. Fun conversation.

Bob
 
Where are you sourcing bullet lengths with which to use these calculators?

Never mind...found a source. And...your calculators also say a 1-14 works!

One thing you've never mentioned. Elevation plays a huge roll in stability as well. Of course...being a champion shooter and all, you knew that I am sure.
 
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Originally Posted By: OldTurtleQuote: At 1 in 12 a 40gr jacketed lead bullet barely stabilizes. ...That's funny, right there...I have a 1/12 Rem 700 that handles any bullet weight from 40-60 in little bitty groups at 200 yards and had a 1/14 AR upper built that really shined with 40-55gr bullets and the 40s were pumped up to almost a .204 speed...
Quote:When you shoot .223 it is VERY sensitive to twist. It is not unusual for .223's to be a bit finicky
I have two 1/9 twists that will shoot 40-68gr with accuracy all day long and have done it with one in several 3-gun matches as well as decimating some Prairie Dogs at 300 yards...

You need to get better batteries in your calculator or get a new one...

Why get a new one? That is exacly what I just said!!!! 1 in 9 for up to the 60 grn. Come on read... do you all want to argue or get more info?
 
Any bullet you can get the right info on. You should use the JBM calculator. Email your suppliers and ask them to fill in the data. They know what they build. If they can't answer the blanks on the JBM they are not that good.
 
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Man you are walking danger! NO YOU SHOULD NOT SHOOT A 5.56 IN 223! Man... that's been talked about for ever. The 5.56 is a higher PSI round. It uses a long throat to reduce pressure. It is similar to a Weatherby Chamber. The Howa May be able to shoot both. If the barrel says it will shoot it then it will. It takes a long throat to shoot 5.56 unless you enjoy shooting over pressure rounds.
 
coyotejunk..You remind me of the guy looking for the bacon stretcher while snipe hunting! Ha hah hah. Funny guy! 223 and 5.56 are the same... hilarious!
 
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Not as much as you would think there smart guy. Why do you think the formulas only ask for specific gravity. Being an expert yes I am quite aware it has little effect. But.. you already knew that right?
 
Originally Posted By: bmorgil

The twist is a problem on the .223. At 1 in 12 a 40gr jacketed lead bullet barely stabilizes. It got a new McMillan stock, pillar bedded, barrel floated and the trigger (all steel and adjustable) was set at 6 lbs. so that became a nice breaking 2 lbs.. 3 inch bench rest 100yrd. Groups shrunk to 1 1/2 inch 5 shot groups! Nice but something was still wrong. This was one fine gun at this point. I learned long ago that all my customers hated that "standard military" .223 M16 twist. But don't stop. Hornady makes a .223 blunt nose 35 grain VMax with a flat base. Ta Da! 1/2" any day at 100yrds. M.O.A. all the way to 400 yards.


WHAT???

Are you crazy?? There are about eleventy kajillion guys shooting 40 through 60 grain softpoint bullets through a 12" twist.

Hornady recommends the 12" twist for their new 53 V-max, which is the longest mid weight bullet made (at 0.830").



This was shot with a 50gr Sierra BlitzKing in a 14" twist - 100 yds.


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Your statements are pure BS.

You really know how to impress a crowd!
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Originally Posted By: bmorgilMan you are walking danger! NO YOU SHOULD NOT SHOOT A 5.56 IN 223! Man... that's been talked about for ever. The 5.56 is a higher PSI round. It uses a long throat to reduce pressure. It is similar to a Weatherby Chamber. The Howa May be able to shoot both. If the barrel says it will shoot it then it will. It takes a long throat to shoot 5.56 unless you enjoy shooting over pressure rounds.

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The 5,56mm is loaded to ~55Kpsia.

Look it up in the military specs. Dummy!
 
Originally Posted By: bmorgilWell ya just showed your ignorance big time $as#hole! Ha hah. Man you kids are slow. Here Akman... your welcome.

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmdrag-5.1.cgi

http://www.bergerbullets.com/litz/TwistRuleAlt.php

Where'd this beep come from? Guy doesn't know squat except for what he thinks he knows from reading a website. Tell you what morgil......stuff your bs and find out by actually shooting, instead of shooting your mouth off. Better yet, stfu and get lost. Go troll someplace else
 
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Originally Posted By: pahntr760No...I am looking at data they publish using the very same calculator you post. How do I know this? I have called them and verified.



ok now stop that Man! Walts asleep and Eric Stecker (the guy who runs the company) is stuck in traffic. It's after 7:00 pm in California!
 
Originally Posted By: bmorgilOriginally Posted By: pahntr760No...I am looking at data they publish using the very same calculator you post. How do I know this? I have called them and verified.



ok now stop that Man! Walts asleep and Eric Stecker (the guy who runs the company) is stuck in traffic. It's after 7:00 pm in California!

I didn't call them today, smart fella!

So if you're such a well to do shooter and rifle builder...mind listing verified credentials?
 
Man you are SO SLOW! Glad to. PM me and Ill build what you want. It will come with a REGISTERED Notorized Target with the guns serial number.
 
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