Hunting coyotes with dogs and truck???

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Originally Posted By: pasturepupIf I see a dog box go by my blood boils and I follow them. And i do use their dogs for target.

so if you don't shoot their dogs why would you post such a statement? are these hound hunters or dog wagons with stag hounds? i'm sure the latter, they do tend to stir up the farmers around there also.
 
If it's legal I support it even if I don't hunt that way myself.

If it's illegal I feel a responsibility to turn the bum in. He's hurting legal hunting/hunters.

If an animal is threatening livestock/pets/children etc, it's dead. Period.
 
Emeraldterriers, I say target as meaning to focus in on making the dogs the main conversation of why you shouldn't be on the ground. If you threaten to pop a round off at someone's dog, they get the hint real quick. Sorry to not completely explain. As I say the dogs are not at fault, I wouldn't shoot one, maybe towards one to get the point across. People out here carry weapons of all sorts, so telling someone to move it, they might see just how much you can back that up. I prefer to let me know right off I mean what is said.
 
Bout the only thing I realy dont care for bout hunting is the hunting preserves and pens. Not my cup of tea but others. Never realy liked the idea of running something or hunting it in a fenced in piece of land. A few mile from my house is a yote pen they run often, you can drive by and see the yotes sun bathing in the sun or just walking the outside road of the fenced property. But I quess its a way to run your dogs and keep them in a certain area for sure. But????
 
Treemuup,My Dad runs Leapord curs,he's been running them exclusivley for about 15 years. He just got back with a new pup from Orum NC.
As far as the Coyote hunting goes,We don't shoot from trucks or roads,we don't drive off road and chase 'em,and we don't shoot within 500' of a building(thats the law).the truck on the road is to keep the dogs from getting hit and shuttle our crew if the run leaves the area.Last weekend Sundays run covered 3 blocks,about 12 sq. miles.Were respectful of other people and other hunters,If that offends someone to bad.
If the callers out here in the east were more effective and got rid of the mangy critters(we did'nt have any here until 20 years ago)I'd much rather hunt rabbits with Beagles than yotes with hounds.I sold mine 2 years ago,The rabbit population is 3 years past the up cycle.Most of the rabbits are living on the edge of peoples yards.
 
So how many targe.... errr.... dogs did he have working your property?

You could shoot the dogs if you really wanted to

I wouldn't shoot one, maybe towards one to get the point across.


All the above Quotes are bad advice to say the least.

I believe if you look at your state laws its a class A misdemeanor and in most states a felony.

See Texas state law below

Pursuant to Texas Penal code 42.09 (cruelty to domesticated animals -- dogs, cats and the like), First and Second Offenses of Animal Cruelty in Texas are categorized as Class A misdmeanors -- punishable by up to a $4,000 fine and/or up to a year in jail. Third Offense Animal Cruelty is a felony punishable by up to a $10,000 fine and/or up to 2 years in jail. Pursuant to Texas Penal Code 42.09(A)(5) a person is guilty of animal cruelty if he intentionally, knowingly or recklessly kills, seriously injures, or administers poison to an animal, other than cattle, horses, sheep, swine, or goats, belonging to another without legal authority or the owner's effective consent. So, shooting a dog, unless you can prove it was a "wild" dog is a criminal offense in Texas as classified above.

you should also consider the Financial ramifications of the above said advice.

You'll probably loose the firearm you shot the dog with. then the retainer for the attorney for your criminal trial. and if you loose your a felon { assuming you were charged with a felony } and now you can no longer own firearms. And lets not forget the civil court costs witch can be in the thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars.

the days of shooting dogs for trespassing are long gone if you claim to be protecting your livestock you better be able to prove it see attached link.

man allegedly shoots womans dog

if you have SLOB hunters in your area or on your property call the authorities and don't make rash decisions about shooting someone's dogs or confronting these SLOB hunters while waving around your firearm and threatening to shoot their dogs. I think your asking for trouble.

I do not condone trespassing or support SLOB hunters and I do not want to see any forum member go to jail because they were using the bad advice stated above by uninformed members.


Orson
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theres been hounds shot In my area. The handlers got the short end of the stick when they went to court, and were asked what the owner continued to do with the hounds. He explained how they were hunted near every night.
The hounds owner got the hounds taken away.
But kinda funny they dont take race horses away...but they stay off posted property...
i had hounds for years...im not for
letting hounds intentionaly kill game. If your gonna hunt kill it dont make it suffer. Here In PA. using hounds along with a truck is illegal. And alot of properties are posted and many coyote hunters are hunting there properties on Sunday as coyote hunting is growing. So it isnt such a issue in my part of the State. Owners sit in heated huts watching bait.. a stray doesnt make it across to many properties, so i doubt hounds would. The state lands are probably big enough to run the hounds, but the adjoining owners around those lands are even more concerned about tresspassers...
 
IDAHO title 25 chap.35

“The intentional and malicious infliction of pain, physical suffering, injury or death upon an animal"

This is a Misdemeanor. The first conviction of Animal Cruelty is punishable by a fine of $100 to $5000 and/or imprisonment up to 6 months.

just before I moved from michigan to minnesota a county sheriff made his Nieghbors dog disappear not sure if he used the shoot shovel shut up or a snare but last i heard it cost him his job and tens of thousands of dollars in court costs, fines and attorney fees.

Call the sheriff again, call the county dog catcher call the state police, call the county prosecutor

You can do what you want but if your on the computer may i suggest you contact the authorities.

Orson
living the dream o unemployment
 
Originally Posted By: SVG I have a question. My neighbor has hunting dogs. He never hunts with them. I think he thought it was a fun idea but doesn't want to put forth the effort to take them hunting. His dogs got loose from his kennel 3 or 4 times this year. I have asked him repeatedly to take care of it and fix the kennel to no avail. The sherrif won't do anything because we live in the county.Oh they will right him a loose dog ticket, but $45.00and he's done.
I have 2 daughters that are afraid to go outside when they here dogs barking. When is it O.K. for me to shoot the dogs? I don't want to, but I don't think my kids should be prisoners in their own home on my property.


When is OK....it isn't! The correct way to remedy this problem is thru the court system...not with a gun, unless the dogs actually attck you/your children.


As to the original topic, I feel I will not comment, as I have done so on numerous occasions before.
Anyone who actually does want to know where I stand on this issue, check the archives of this Predator Hunting sub-forum, topic "Hunting Coyotes with Greyhounds"...my post dated 1/23/09. Thank you.
 
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Hayseed1 those Leopard Curs are some good looking ones. Had a catch dog for hogs that was leapord/catahoula cur and pit. But thats the closest I good to haven one, even if it was mixed. Hey Orum I think is right down the road from me a bit. Maybe 30 minutes or so.
Hopen to have a good weekend of yote hunting, just got back from baiting a place up. I've got buckets in my game freezer of old meats from deer season frozen up to make big pop cickles for the yotes. Try'n to thin them down a bit, property has never been yote hunting ""that I know of"" yikes the trespassers.
But during the deer season I seen them all over the fields morning and evenings. Now time to hunt them a bit. Be my luck I wont see any now that I'm strickly after them. LOL
 
Originally Posted By: TreeMUPKennelHayseed1 those Leopard Curs are some good looking ones. Had a catch dog for hogs that was leapord/catahoula cur and pit. But thats the closest I good to haven one, even if it was mixed. Hey Orum I think is right down the road from me a bit. Maybe 30 minutes or so.
Hopen to have a good weekend of yote hunting, just got back from baiting a place up. I've got buckets in my game freezer of old meats from deer season frozen up to make big pop cickles for the yotes. Try'n to thin them down a bit, property has never been yote hunting ""that I know of"" yikes the trespassers.
But during the deer season I seen them all over the fields morning and evenings. Now time to hunt them a bit. Be my luck I wont see any now that I'm strickly after them. LOL

I have to ask what does this have to do with the subject " hunting coyotes with a truck "

I'm just saying not sure what this has to do with with any ongoing conversations and or debates.


orson
living the dream on unemployment
 
Treeumup,
I've seen hog hunting on video,Looks like alot of fun.
Wish we could bait here in NY and that the season was open year round.We have way to many yotes here,seems like there's a litter in every block in the spring and the blocks average 2 x 2 miles which aren't really very big.
Good luck this weekend,Hope you pop a few.
 
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I didn't notice the post complaining about getting off topic.Sorry
On the stray dog thing(which has nothing to do with coyote hunting or trucks either),Most of the hound owners I know would cut off their right arm for their dogs.There are a few that shouldn't own dogs in my book.If their dogs are a problem and thy're not following the law then sick the law on them if they don't repond to a reasonable reqeust.Some people dog owners or not are rude and don't respect anyone.Their attitude has ruined many a hunting and fishing spot.I don't beleive hound hunting or dog owning is a problem.Its attitude, weather or not you give and get respect.
 
Originally Posted By: 2zwudzI know he knew his dogs were working on my property and that is my question? Can they legally do that?
It may be a legal practice. But you can also legaly shoot any unwanted k-9's on your property. Consider it next time you see it.
 
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