Hunting Encroachment

Rusty that's a cool lookin picture. You do that ADC work all the time or just for that guy there??

I'm going out myself in a few weeks to do some ariel reconing of some future hunting spots. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I got a question for the fellas from Texas. Say you have a ranch with 65,000 acres all to yourself. How many stands and how often will you call it????
 
Rusty,

I gotta tell you, that looks like your evil aler-ego more than it does the bobcat killing gentleman I met. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Randy
 
Randy, believe me....killing cats at night is more my speed.....I realized that pretty quick when the magneto went out and the pilot had to ditch the helicopter on a dirt road! :eek: My butt muscles tightened up so much I was sore afterwards! Glad the coyotes didn't get the ultimate last laugh on that day! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Dogboy....I do predator control work on a few ranches but definitely not all of them that I hunt on. That would be WAY too much work. I have a full-time office job that keeps me pretty busy. I do some calling and set a few traps on the ones that have real predator problems.....usually in sheep country but occassionally in cattle country.

Also, that's a good question about amount of acreage vs. stands. That's hard to answer because in that country there is a constant influx of predators from the ranches that border it and along the tributaries that run through it. You could put a dent in the population with aerial gunning (which has been done) or even at night with a truck (if they allowed it, which they don't) much more than a single person could on foot during daylight hours. I would say it would be almost impossible for 1 man on foot to control the coyote population with a gun. You have to think about it....65,000 acres is over 100 square miles! That's what is being argued over here.......kinda reminds me of the cartoon of two fleas fighting over an elephant. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

I've hunted that place for years and know it well. The population isn't half of what it used to be. I used to call in multiple triples in the same day off of that place. You'd be extremely lucky to pull that off now due to the amount of pressure it receives from callers and the aerial gunning.

No doubt about it.....it is beautiful country and it can sustain a high coyote population when left alone. But then again the exact same holds true for the rest of Texas. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Take care fellas,

Rusty
 
Rusty that pic almost looks like too much fun!!!!

Almost borderlining more fun than the law will allow. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Some like rollercoasters, some like bungy jumping, but if I ever got into that, it would beat em all. I bet you get a rush out of that.
 
Hunting encroachment atleast in my area is caused
by lack of good hunting land. Any private land
that is good people want to lease. With the sport
of predator calling getting more exposure from
mags, tv shows, more hunters try their hand at
it on any land they can, whether they know other
people that call/hunt it. Hunting in Pa is all
about the $$$ not the sport of it anymore. Now
with the AR's more hunters are getting more greedy about their hunting spots and don't want
anybody else (including friends/family) to be able to hunt on their so called hunting land. It
makes me sick to think this is the way it is. I
found I can only trust a few hunters and they are
all best friends or close family. So I don't hunt
with anyone that I don't trust to be a good person/hunter.
 
Thanks Rusty for the replie. Larry Timmons told me when we were at the PM Hunt that the sheep ranchers play no games and want all coyotes gone.

Interesting with all the measures they take to keep the yotes gone....... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I have been face with similar situations: I had been given permission to hunt several sections of land in Northern Ca. Come to find out, another guy also had permission to hunt the land and had bee for a couple years.

I simply contacted the other guy and informed him that I had recently been given permission to hunt the land as well and asked him if he thought the land, about 12000+- acres would support another hunter.

He said that the land was over-run with coyotes and digger squirrels and invited me out on his next hunt. He showed me around the property and we came to a compromise using a road that divided the land we were able to split it in half.

As it worked out, everytime we bumped into each other, we crammed all of our gear into one rig and hunted together.

In the case of "public" land there just isn't anything you can do about that.

My trapline runs about 50 road miles which includes stretches of five rivers/creeks. There isn't anything I can do about keeping others off of most of my line. I am just forced to improve my skill which I have so far successfully done.

Last year for example, there were two other trappers in our area. Despite that, we were able to take a dozen wolves, a limit of beaver and almost fifty mink. One of the other gus took one wolf and about a dozen mink. The other caught about ten mink.

Fact is, I try not to overstep my bounds, but on the other, I don't twist off if I find someone calling in my favorite hot spot. I just let them know how long I have been around and tell them about some other spot that I heard was loaded with critters, wink wink. AW
 
Ever try public land Turkey or Duck hunting? Now that, will show you just what kind of courtesy people lack.

I've been parked and listening for turkeys well before daylight, had a guy pull up and ask the obvious question, "you huntin'here?', and when I say "Yes", he pulls a 100 yards down the road, park and go into the woods. I wondered why he even asked.

I have also had duck hunters pull up and start throwing decoys out within shotgun range of my spread. All you can do is get mad (which I usually do). But, it's not worth getting shot or shooting somebody over either.

Last spring I was fishing on a major lake. I'm anchored and casting up under a big willow that is growing out of the rocks along a highway that crosses the lake. The catfish spawn on the rocks and you can really catch a lot of fish. I had been fishing up and down the rocks and had just gotten to this spot with the big willow and had caught 5 or 6 fish real quick. Well, along comes a boat with 3 people in it. They proceed to drive up under the willow, run OVER my lines and tie up to the tree. This is all within arms reach of my boat. I made the comment that "They didn't bother messin' a guys fishing up" and they say "Oh, this is our spot, we just baited it out 30 minutes ago.".. I told them how they lacked common courtesy and moved on before I got really mad.
 
Yea, a friend of mine had a turkey shot comming to his calls and decoy last year. Pissed him off too. I have seen several people when I deer hunt on public land walk up and sit down within 50 yards of me too.
 


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