Originally Posted By: South Paw ShooterNight force is making them. I talk them a while back about it. I'm thinking about sending a new gun I'm having SAVAGE ARM custom shop make me to them and have one put on a 25-06 they said I'll be good out to 700-800 yds. on deer and coyotes all day long with it if the gun is good and accurate. Another thing is if you buy one you can go to one of there seminars in the summer and they will teach you how to use them. buy one of there rifle's and they knock off $500 for the $1500 2 day class. Not sure if I'm willing to do that though if I spent 4500-6000 dollars on one of there guns the class should be free.
I know this is my first post on the forum (which is a wonderful resource with many very knowledgeable folks for sure)but I just have to call BS on the info that Nightforce are making these scopes.
Having handled & used the NF scopes for several years & having also (however briefly) looked at the Huskemaw product, there is no way, at least IMHO that NF is the manufacturer. The Huskemaw is considerably heavier than the NF product & frankly, I just don't see NF getting into a product that cheap, especially when demand for their scopes is so high. In other words, I can't see them making scopes for other folks that they sell to the other folks for less than their dealer pricing on their own stuff, it just doesn't make sense?
As to other issues, yes, LR hunting can be humanely done but only with many hours of practice. The image that BOTW portrays is that ANYONE can just get one of their scopes & rifles & go killing animals at 900yds. This really upsets me as it is bound to lead to injured animals & a very bad image for all hunters.
I would love to know what caliber the bear shooting was done with because all I have ever seen those guys using has been the 6.5/284 & 7mm Rem Mags, neither of which, again, IMHO, has the required energy at those kind of ranges to reliably provide a 1st round kill which should be the aim of every responsible hunter.
Again, just IMHO, just using drop charts for your load is kinda like believing the Govt fuel consumption figures for your vehicle; a good start but only verified by actual testing. I shoot all my drop charts at ALL the ranges I intend to shoot at in the field. Yes, I am lucky my range is only a mile from work & stretches out to 800 meters but there is simply no excuse for not shooting the load to make sure the drop chart is accurate. If you can't do that, then IMHO, you have no right to be shooting at animals past the ranges you have practiced at, regardless of any whizz bang scope or PDA that says you can.
On my .338 Lapua Mag, I have a Leupold 8.5-25x scope & my drops are marked on blue painters tape wrapped around the dial. Works just fine & I have no need to spend $100 for new turrets if my load changes. Leupold also offer interchangeable dials for their scopes too & without being too cocky, I'll take a name brand like Leupold with a proven history & lifetime warranty over an unknown, unproven (in the long term) brand like Huskemaw. BOTW & their sponsors remind me too much of the late night infomercials.
Great forum & glad to be a very small part of it.