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Borden811

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Ok boys, here we go. I'll post up the best pics I have. I was a little uneasy about decapping a live primer. Never done it, and didn't want to pop one, so the only primer pics I have are of the one in the brass. I can take a few pics of a spent one that I de-primed if that will help. The bullet is a 168 gr. barnes tsx. The powder charge weighed 91.6 grains. I looked in my nosler reloading manual, and that seemed on the low end for almost every load in there. The powder looked awfully similar to the RL-22 I had on my bench. Let the games begin!
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Excellent photo quality!I have to go look at a couple of powders now.
Thanks, this should be fun.Hope others will `play`..lol
 
I have not made it downstairs yet (sidetracked by leftover dinner in the kitchen), but think some load data specific to Barnes is in order.
 
Originally Posted By: Borden811I just looked it up online. Using RL-22 and a 168 gr. tsx, the max load listed is 91.5 gr.....Interesting

IDK for sure but I`m thinking that Barnes TSX might be a `little different` animal.

To date I don`t own a BIG MAGNUM Rifle, but of the powders I have that MIGHT work, pretty much ruled them out.
AA3100- too many shorter sticks mixed in.
AA4350- pretty much all shorter sticks.
I have Win. Rem. and CCI primers the only ones silver in color of those is CCI. Not sure about others.
BTW- about 20 some years ago I purchased this $15 30x microscope, cool little thing..now I think they make
something for the computer.
 
Not to be a smart azz, but trying to guess what powder is used in a factory round can be hazardous to one's health. Only blown primer I ever had was results of doing same w/a factory .222 round many years ago
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Many factory powders look similar to familiar powders, but are not available to handloaders.

Regards,
hm
 
Understood hm1996...but just trying to make an educated guess on someone elses reload, THEN start from scratch,with appropriate current published load data.Starting low and working up of course.
 
Like Borden, I looked up Barnes data, they only list RL22 and RL25 on their site, and 91.5 gr is max for RL22, with Fed 215 primer. That is kind of interesting.


Just looking at it, I have no idea what it is. I just looked at my own, I have RL22 and 25, Retumbo, and H4831sc, and they are too similar to venture a guess.

If you already have RL 22, I would start there, but not at the max load, of course.
 
Yeah, I have some RL-22, so that's what I was planning on using. Definately not staring at max. I'll start on the low end, and work up. HM, it's not a factory round. It's a reload, and I was just trying to narrow down the components so I had a starting point for working up my own loads. Read the thread titled "impossible, or no?" and you'll understand better why this thread originated. Obviously it won't be possible to tell exactly what it is, but I thought it was neat that the recommended load by barnes could possibly be exactly what I have. No way to tell for sure, but atleast I have a starting point now. Federal primers are aslo silver, correct?
 
There are only 3 powders that can be id'd by site. Blue dot, Green dot and Red dot. They can be id'd because of the colored flakes added to them. All others you are just guessing and that is a very, very bad idea.
 
Originally Posted By: Borden811Yeah, I have some RL-22, so that's what I was planning on using. Definately not staring at max. I'll start on the low end, and work up. HM, it's not a factory round. It's a reload, and I was just trying to narrow down the components so I had a starting point for working up my own loads. Read the thread titled "impossible, or no?" and you'll understand better why this thread originated. Obviously it won't be possible to tell exactly what it is, but I thought it was neat that the recommended load by barnes could possibly be exactly what I have. No way to tell for sure, but atleast I have a starting point now. Federal primers are aslo silver, correct?

Don't start at the low end, start 3.0g off of book max load and work up.
 
Originally Posted By: chris112There are only 3 powders that can be id'd by site. Blue dot, Green dot and Red dot. They can be id'd because of the colored flakes added to them. All others you are just guessing and that is a very, very bad idea.

It's not really a bad idea if he is still using published load data for the powder and bullet he is using and working up. If you read a few posts up he is just looking for a starting point. He isn't going to take 91.6gr of powder and dump it in and hope for the best. He thinks it looks like RL-22 so he is going to try working up a load with that powder from the reloading data he has. He knows what bullet and brass he has.
 
Correct. I think I will be able to get close to the performance I'm getting now from the rifle(accuracy wise) using RL-22 or 25. And 22 is what I have now. Seeing as how the barnes bullets can sometimes be finicky about seating depth, I figure I'm already a step ahead in that regard, since I can easily measure that, and then use the load data for the 168 gr barnes and RL-22 and the suggested primer(federal) and see what I come up with. It will be a while before I get the time to load them up and test them, but when I do, I'll dig this post up, and then post the results so you all can see how I made out.
 
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