Im an idiot. Help finding a choke?

Slagiatt

Slagiatt

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Ive been looking on midway, brownells, cheaperthandirt... either im an incompetent fool, or nobody sells a full choke for a mossberg 500 20ga. Im assuming its the former. Not like its an uncommon gun. Can somebody help me out with a link? Trying to get the neighbor ladies shotgun set up for her. She cant see the stupid factory bead sights well, so i put a rail and reflex sight on it, but am still trying to come up with a good load / choke combo for her. After trying slugs in it, im sure the recoil is too much for her, so ill be trying turkey loads tomorrow, but that would really need a different choke tube. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Originally Posted By: derbyacresbobhttps://www.choketube.com/choke-tube-product-details-R.php?Mossberg-500-Choke-Tubes&mf=9

Call Carlson's choke tubes.

Some turkey loads will have more recoil than slugs because the Turkey loads shot charges weigh more than the slugs do.

Well [beeep]. My neighbor is a 65 year old lady. Tough old gal, works her [beeep] off, but man, shes not big by any means. She has a 20ga. Shes never even shot it. But she wants to be able to protect herself and her dog with it. Around here, 2 legged threats are unlikely. Mostly bears, lions and wolves are the problems. I had to run over when her dog treed a cougar "cub" thst was basically full grown, right next to her house. Ran by mama cougar not 20 yrds away with a .357 in my hand to get the dog before things got too crazy. Slugs are clearly out of the question for her. I was thinking turkey loads and a full choke might be better. Im not a shotgun guy, just trying to figure out what she could effectively use against big predators with a 20ga, hopefully without a big wide spread incase the dog is tangling with something.
 
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Originally Posted By: spotstalkshootInside of 30' choke will not matter much, whatever gets hit with even game bird loads is seriously wounded/dead.

More thinkin out to 30 yards. And wanting the pattern to be tighter incase her dog is in close to a problem critter.

I got her shooting #4 turkey loads and she can handle it, but i think its about her limit recoilwise. I think shed never shot it because she just couldnt see the beads to line them up, and couldnt really get her face down to the stock. So i put a high rise stock pad on and a rail and a reflex sight, and it seems to have made all the difference where she can actually shoot the gun now, and shes hitting where she points it.
 
Buckshot is where it's at. I wouldn't want to shoot a bear with #4 bird shot unless I had to. It won't kick any worse than a turkey load. If she's in a bad way she ain't gonna feel recoil anyway.
 
and much like any other shooter... once you get used to handling a shotgun with light loads... learning to manage recoil is the next logical step. its all about proper body mechanics and position at that point - barring of course some kind of injury/disability preventing it anyway.


i know its not the same deal as a small frame 65 yr old woman, but in my family we grew up shooting 3" express 12 gauge loads and 30-06's by the time we were 12-13 years old. but we were taught how to manage recoil and move with the gun when it fired so that it didnt kick yoru @ss.

and like mentioned above... if your Adrenalin is up... she aint gonna notice the recoil difference between a #4 turkey loads and some 00-buck.

i mean.. let her practice with the low brass stuff... but make sure her 'get em' loads are full house.

same idea as running 125gr light 38 special loads in your 357 mag to plink with... but carrying full bore 158 JPH's for self defense.

my $0.02 USD
 
Oh i do plan on getting some buckshot and trying it out. If its noticably more recoil than the turkey loads ill have her shoot some.
 
Get an extended choke tube for buck shot. The shorter stock length tubes will probably not work well with buck shot and tighter chokes. I would go with an aftermarket extended length choke tube in Extra Full.
 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CARLSON-S-20-GA-Ext-Extra-Full-585-Win-Moss500-BI-Wtrby-Sav-Choke-Tube-17777/132608917981?epid=1800136863&hash=item1ee01b81dd:g:D-IAAOSwF1dUQUYy
 
Originally Posted By: rkite Get an extended choke tube for buck shot. The shorter stock length tubes will probably not work well with buck shot and tighter chokes. I would go with an aftermarket extended length choke tube in Extra Full.

Why would a standard full choke not work well with buckshot? Like i said, im really not a shotgun guy. Curious what the difference would be between a standard length full choke and an extended extra full. Like how much of a difference in pattern would ya say at 20 yards or 30 yards?
 
Buck shot are much larger and get shocked harder when going through a tight restriction cause there is no where for them to move. Smaller shot can more easily conform when going through a tight choke. The longer more gradual forcing cone of an extended choke lessens the shock and thus produces a better pattern with larger shot. The Mossberg 500 standard tubes are only 1.5" long since they are the same as the original Browning Invector tubes. The extended tubes will be about 3/4 inch longer than stock.

I have a gun that's patterns were blown with buckshot with anything tighter than the stock IC tubes. I bought a Trulock extended extra full choke tube and get good patterns with all shot sizes up to 00 buck.

The EBay link I posted was for a CARLSON’S 20 GA Extended Extra Full .585 Win, Moss500 Choke Tube #17777. It is still listed for $40.


 
FYI: In my gun I found the cheaper Remington Express buckshot loads to pattern better in a tight choke than the high end Federal buckshot. Your results may vary.
 
Are you actually talking about a 20ga with 00 buck? Ive never found anything that big for 20ga, just #3bk and #2bk for 20ga.
 
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