Im flat out amazed with my 35 rem.

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Ernest II

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I have owned Marlin lever guns in 30/30 and never had one shoot good groups. Well I shot my 35 rem today at a lazered 101 yards and It kinda got boring. I shot at one targe and hit about 2 1/5 in high which is where I had the scope set to. Then a dif target same spot. Then shot that target again and the holes touched each other, I then proceeded to shoot some small bottles with water in them. They were about 8 oz bottles. Finally just put the gun up since I was very happy with the groups and got bored.Holes touching at 101 yards with a lever gun, Im real happy with that one.
Daryl P.
 
The 2 1/5 in high at 100 puts me right at 1 in low at 200. Thats why I sighted it this way.SO I figure it should be a good 250 yard gun.
Daryl P.
 
I am a fan of 35's, I have a mint Remington 700 CDL in 35 Whelen. The 35 Rem. has minimal at best energy at 200 yds for whitetail deer, it has approx 850 ft.lbs of energy at 200 yds with a 200 gr. bullet.
 
I've used the .35 Rem to take a couple antelope beyond 200yards and a mule deer at just over 150, out of a 14 inch TC Contender "0" tracking required. Guess they didn't read the ballistic tables.
 
Originally Posted By: WolferCI've used the .35 Rem to take a couple antelope beyond 200yards and a mule deer at just over 150, out of a 14 inch TC Contender "0" tracking required. Guess they didn't read the ballistic tables.

ballstic tables are for those who are interested in downrange energy (killing power)on the specific game they are chasing, the 35 Rem at 250 yds is marginal. Everyone has a "golden BB" story.
 
Energy isn't killing power. Holes in vitals are. Energy is a poor reference for how effective a round is on game. I wonder how all those animals were killed before ballistics tables and the interweb was created.

By your theory, the 223 with a 50 grained is a 100 yd deer rifle.
 
1 50g Sierra SP through the shoulder, DRT, not a twitch. 130 yards lasered.

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All I'm saying on the matter of "paper energy"

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850 ft lbs of energy is more than enough to kill deer size animals. Several states have minimum energy requirements of 500 ft lbs.
 
I believe "energy" to be a by-product of performance, rather than an indicator in and of itself. Airgunning has made this very clear to me.

Perfect example: compare the trapdoor 45-70 load to that of the 22-250. Identical energy levels resulting from COMPLETELY different performance.
 
pahntr760 By your theory said:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/bad_deer_cartridges.htm

.223 and .221 are varmint calibers.... of course deer have been shot with them, my relatives used .22 rimfire during the depression. My comments are directed at the .35 Rem as a 250 yd deer caliber which it isnt. The original poster was hoping to have a 250 yd rifle with his fine shooting .35 Rem. Its a great gun shooting a medium power cartrige but it isnt a good choice for 250+ yds.
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Originally Posted By: mnblasterOriginally Posted By: WolferCI've used the .35 Rem to take a couple antelope beyond 200yards and a mule deer at just over 150, out of a 14 inch TC Contender "0" tracking required. Guess they didn't read the ballistic tables.

ballstic tables are for those who are interested in downrange energy (killing power)on the specific game they are chasing, the 35 Rem at 250 yds is marginal. Everyone has a "golden BB" story.

Well here's my "GOLDEN BB" story. The above mentioned animals were all shot on the same afternoon. Pluss a few jackrabbits to check zero. I consider myself an average shot and yes sometimes I do get lucky but, it seems that the more I practice the luckier I get. If luck gives me days like this I'll take it! The 180 grain flat nosed bullets I shoot out my .35 REM can't read either they think they can kill any thing I shoot through the heart, so far they've been right.

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Originally Posted By: pahntr760Energy isn't killing power. Holes in vitals are. Energy is a poor reference for how effective a round is on game. I wonder how all those animals were killed before ballistics tables and the interweb was created.

By your theory, the 223 with a 50 grained is a 100 yd deer rifle.

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Energy,ft/lbs, or speed does not kill contributing factors but do not kill holes where it counts makes it happen.
You could slit your wrist in the backcountry and have to hike out ___ miles and still die.Unless you have a minimal amount of first aid knowledge to know to take certain measures to prevent major loss of blood.
 
FWIW, from Hornady's website on the 35 Rem Leverevolution 200 gr. factory load:

Test Barrel (24") Velocity (fps) / Energy (ft-lbs)
Muzzle 100 200 300
2225/2198 1963/1711 1721/1315 1503/1003
Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 200 300
-1.70 3.00 -1.30 -17.50

Over 1000 ft/lbs at 300 yds. paper ballistics.
 
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I would say the 35 rem has plenty for deer out to and past 200. Ernest, I would feel very confident taking the shots you are talking about. No doubt.

A 223 is a varmint chambering? There are plenty of dead critters and people that would disagree, if they could.
 
Sounds like a shooter ability more than a energy/velocity problem. Something like shooter error resulting in. Long track or lost animal due bad shot and blamEd on not enough energy/speed bullet type weight Ect. All that matters is that your happy Daryl.
 
Wasnt trying to get a debate going just bragging on my marlin.Not really the caliber but the marlin is what I was happy about. Ive had a few 30/30,s and never had a lever gun shoot this good. I dont know alot about ballistics and energy and all. I do however believe shot placement will take game more than energy.If a good kill shot is made be it heart, lungs the game is going down quick.
Daryl P.
 
Originally Posted By: pahntr760Energy isn't killing power. Holes in vitals are. Energy is a poor reference for how effective a round is on game. I wonder how all those animals were killed before ballistics tables and the interweb was created.

By your theory, the 223 with a 50 grained is a 100 yd deer rifle.

Energy makes the holes in the vitals bigger.
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It makes temporary wound cavities bigger to shut down organs, and makes permanent wound cavities bigger, thus resulting in bigger holes.

What's not to love?
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And before the interweb, energy still exsisted. We just weren't as informed about it. You cannot deny that with new information, hunter's have become more successful with harvesting game than previous decades. More information leads to better informed decisions and better choices to kill game in a quick, expedient manner.

By no means am I saying you gotta have it, a hole in the heart is, after all, a hole in the heart, no matter what you put it there with, but energy don't hurt to have (unless your a game animal).
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