Important...Safety of our country and our gun rights..

uh ???
not very wise of you byron !!! (grin)
i could say something silly like go out and buy all byron's videos for being "citizen enough" to enter this discussion
but i know him
and i know he didn't post here to get sales
HE POSTED BECAUSE HE IS A PROUD CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
and i would say the same for someone who touted the other side
(albeit i would not grin so wide at their "wiseness" statement)
because you see
that is how we fix the economy (which seems to be the grand issue ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA)
we fix it by spending our hard earned dollars with fellow americans who produce hard earned american products
and if we don't have the hard earned dollars
at least we support them with our words and hearts

for we are all AMERICANS and live in the greatest nation in the world...run BY THE PEOPLE (for now)
as citizens we must fight the prices that unscrupulous wealthy charge us for products and services (and don't buy them)
we give, if we have any, to those who work hard and struggle and can't make it or have lost it through no fault of their own
AND WE THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THESE CHOICES FOR OUR HARD EARNED DOLLARS
IT IS "OUR NATION" NOT THE GOVERNMENTS
THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T FIX THIS
WE DO
AND I BELIEVE WITH ALL MY HEART
THAT WHEN (GOD FORBID) OUR RIGHTS TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS IS CHALLENGED OR (GOD FORBID) WHEN WE ARE ATTACKED
THAT A MIGHTY MILITIA MADE UP OF OUR CITIZENS WILL FIGHT ANY AGGRESOR AND THIS GREAT NATION WILL SURVIVE

imagine if you will... wheeling MR BRADY in a rain of enemy bullets or walking side by side on a battlefield with TED KENEDDY sharing your last rounds with BARRACK OBAMA defending a strategic position with JOE BIDDEN or charging against our enemies, on our soil, with those who have never pledged allegiance to our flag... if our country is attacked imagine them putting it all on the line (their very lives) for this country

and also imagine a PERFECT PEACEFUL WORLD and the sharing of wealth, prosperity, JOY AND LOVE

you should be able to see both in your leaders
our leaders should have the strength and conviction to fight for both
THAT IS THEIR JOB !!!
if you can't
think long and hard in the voting booth

r. michael charske
guero
 
Man when I started this post I didn't know you guys would get this passionate but I'm so GLAD you did. Wow!!!!
Byron, after reading every single word of Cory Millers letter, I wanted to jump up and down and run out and give a copy to every liberal in the state of Pennsylvania. I was moved by that and your posts also.
I'm really worried here in Pa. We have more hunters and gun owners than most any state and it has voted Democratic for the past million years. Thats why I posted this originally, to get people thinking and voting the correct way. God I hope we do that in Pa. Thanks everyone for getting involved in this topic and keep spreading the word right up to Tuesday morning. Pete /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinning-smiley-003.gif
 
peteric
the only reason i jumped on this is my beautiful wife is from just down the road...williamsport...and i figured you needed the support
(kidding about the reason...but she is from there)
thanks so much for starting this
God bless America and God bless Pennsylvania
 

guerowolf,

Your right I didn't post to spur sales, but now that you brought it up.......just kidding.

Pete,
Feel free to send this to everyone you can in PA. Thanks for starting this conversation.



To all,

I did post because of concern. I'm amazed at some people’s lack of reason and their inability to see things that are so evident. The term SHEEPLE comes to mind when I think of these people. Regardless of overwhelming evidence they still can't come to a reasonable conclusion. Brainwashed Zombies. Common since has been replaced with letting the guy on the TV tell you what to think. Let’s wake up, step back, and look at all the liberal propaganda that we have been spoon fed over the years. Now measure it with the amount our kids are now being fed. It used to be only in the bigger universities on each end of the country. Now it is in just about every university and all the way down to grade school. The liberals now have an entrenched foothold on our own kids. Guess what!!!!Some of these kids are now getting to voting age. Could this have been a plan? Will we allow it? COMPLACENCY can destroy this country. Example: Why have we not drilled for oil here? Defies reason …we can do it without destroying wildlife….Oh yeah the liberal won’t let us…so now we not only send our money to countries that hate us we have become dependent on them…this makes us venerable in so many ways. COMPLACENCY. We as a nation have become COMPLICIT as we have allowed the liberals to introduce “political correctness” into our culture and we have let it override COMMON SINCE. If we have not become complicit I ask you how we have come to this point. I think it is a travesty that we have allowed the United States of America to become dependent on foreign supplied energy….Especially when it was us that developed these foreign energy sources. Sounds like we’ve cut our own throat? Energy and education is just two examples of how the liberal, socialist, dare I say communist mindset have put American culture, and security in jeopardy.
Let’s go back and look at why our ancestors left England in the first place. Our fore fathers fought almost insurmountable odds to form this nation. Over the last two centuries we have defended the concepts this nation was founded on with devout devotion and the lives of many. If you’re not getting a grasp on what Im saying just read up on some history and see what made this country great. Becoming dependent on other countries or our own government is not what makes us great. We are a nation of doers, movers, shakers, builders, producers, innovators ….etc…We should not ever become a nation of people looking to the government for a hand up or a hand out. If you need a hand look on the end of your own arm.
The very idea of the government being able to somehow solve our personal financial problems is just wrongheaded thinking. It is this thinking that got us in this financial crisis in the first place. The liberals in congress harassed and intimidated lending institutions into making billions of dollars in bad loans all the while skimming huge amounts of money for themselves and other partners in CRIME. Yes I said CRIME. These people are CRIMINAL, THEIVES, and THUGS that have taken advantage of these low income people for their own profit. It should be apparent that they are now trying to act like they did it in effort to help these people. It however is apparent to me that they (Barney Frank and his partners in CRIME) were more motivated out of greed than any want to help these people. Under Obama do you think these people will be held accountable? I find it disturbing how these people with the help of the media (more partners in CRIME) have sold the American people on the idea that this Crisis was somehow Bush’s and the Republicans fault. If you doubt what I say is true get your head out of Obamas butt and look for yourself. I’m not a huge Bush fan but I am a devout conservative. Bush could and should have done better. So should a lot of so called conservatives we have elected but that is looking back. The idea that we should give the liberals a chance to fix the problem THEY created is just wrongheaded. This is where good old common since and holding people accountable come in. Just look and you will see that is was liberals (including Obama and the people he is affiliated with) that pushed for the legislation and intimidated loaning institutions to make these bad loans (Can you say ACORN).

This deal with community organizing is also very disturbing to me. These “community organizing” organizations are nothing more than propaganda machines that are designed to indoctrinate these unfortunate people with a liberal mindset that leads them to believe that the answers to all their problems exist through the government. This is not helpful in any way other than to make them dependent on the government. By doing this it gives these politicians power over these people. The saddest part is that it deprives these people of any incentive or initiative to look within themselves to accomplish anything on their own. It is this doctrine that has created this culture. Do you think the people on the Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria risked all they had including their lives to come to this “new world” did so, so the government could take care of them. HeII no they came here to get out from under a repressive government. When was it that people began thinking they were entitled to anything they didn’t earn?

Dang I got way up on my soap box this morning didn’t I. There is plenty more I’d like to say but heck I’ve got to get to work. I own a business and people depend on me producing products. Before I go, just think about this, I own a small business (producing videos). Around my small business are other businesses that benefit. Here is just a small list off the top of my head….. Someone has to produce the equipment I use(jobs), someone sells it(jobs), someone delivers it(jobs), I then have to go out and film, travel, eat(jobs). When I’m finished filming I have the product produced (jobs), shipped back to me then shipped out again(jobs). These products are in stores that were built by Americans(jobs), and they employ Americans(jobs). My videos are then watched by people with interest and they hopefully go out enjoy the sport and may even buy products from the people that sponsor me and the cycle then continues (jobs, jobs, jobs………..and more jobs). You get it now…jobs are created and money is earned. It’s called FREE ENTERPRISE and it’s the best system ever developed. I thank God for the opportunities this country affords each and every citizen. How we have allowed people to demonize Capitalism and the Free enterprise system is disturbing to me. If we allow the liberal mindset to take hold the ability as well as the incentive to enjoy the benefits of the free enterprise system will fade away and we will become subjects instead of citizens.


Your right to vote is a very precious right indeed. Please think about this vote as it could be the most important vote you make in your lifetime. Do you want to vote for a man that has demonstrated time and time again his intentions to diminish your rights and freedoms? Or do you want to vote for a many that has demonstrated time and time again his willingness and ability to reduce wasteful government bureaucratic spending, and corruption within the government?
Do you want to vote for a person that has been endorsed by our enemies or one that is feared?
Do you want to vote for a man that has little or no leadership experience?
Do you want to vote for a man with very questionable affiliations with people who have not only wished and done this country harm but to this day spout off their disdain for our country?
Do you want to vote for a person that thinks the government has the right to decide if you can have a gun, or if you can, what kind it will be?
Remember what I said in the beginning about being complicit? Please don’t be complicit in these things by not voting.

God Bless,

Byron
 
Byron just hit another one out of the park! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

Hey Byron, how about making this a daily column and next one tell us how you really feel! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Pete, thanks for starting the thread, there are still a few who have not seen the light, maybe if this stays at the top of the forum until the 4th it might soak through.

I've seen many presidential elections come and go and this one scares me like no other.

God bless America!

Regards,
hm
 
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All we can do is try to educate the "followers". I'm finally getting somewhere with my step daughter's re-education but there will always be some who you can not teach.
 
Byron,
Well done! You said it a lot better than I could have.

I'm concerned though that most people have turned a blind eye to the truth and have only change on their minds regardless of the outcome. There are so many people including the liberal media that hates Bush so much that they will believe and do anything to get their boy into office.
I for one thank Mr. Bush for keeping us safe and the ememy out of our country.
 
HM,
'm with you .Let’s keep this to the top, but we also need to preach to those that need the preaching more than the choir.
Pete,
God bless you for starting this thread. We need PA’s electoral votes in a bad way. We can get them if we work and get people to the poles with enough good information so they will vote for Americanism over Socialism.

Let’s see if I can pizz some more folks off. I’m on a role today.

As I said Complacency is where I believe the problem stems from. Most people just take for granted the rights we have. Why do I believe this is true? Most of my generation is either not aware of, or so removed from the sacrifices that were made so that we can enjoy these rights that they just don't understand the price that was paid for these rights and freedoms. Dang, that was a mouthful. Capitalisms, Conservatism and Free enterprise are what made this country the most successful country in the world, not liberalism or any of its tenants.

A little history....100 years ago many worked small farms and mom and pop type businesses. At that time only about 1 in 100 worked for the government. During the industrial revolution many left the small farms and mom and pop businesses and went to work for larger business and industry. During this time the unions were formed. In the beginning they were good for the workers and gave them a voice. They have now however grown into large political machines that intimidate as well as inhibit the growth of the very companies that feed them. Tail wagging the dog type deal. (There are many good people that are members of unions, but for the most part I don’t agree with the way most unions operate. I won’t get into that in this discussion, but I do know that PA is full of proud union supporters and I hope they read these words). Back to my point, during this time we have gone from 1 in 100 working for the government to nearly 1 in 10. Yes, now almost 1 out of every 10 people works for some form of government whether it is city, county, state or federal. Of these jobs none of them produce any form of products that make a profit. They do provide income for people which is good but where does this money come from? It comes from the efforts and profits and wages from real businesses that produce goods and services. If Obama is elected he will create jobs, but where will these jobs be, and who will pay the wages? His plan is clear, his jobs will be government jobs, and the money will come by taxing "big business" (Be aware big business to him is not all that big). The effect of this is evident as it has been done in other countries already. Heck, it has been tried here too (Remember Jimmy Carter, 21% interest rates, double digit inflations and unemployment). To make my point... at some point the government needs to get back to what was the framers of our constitution were so obviously trying to avoid when they penned the very words in that wonderful document. I understand the document is over 200 years old but the words within it are still very relevant and as pertinent today as they were then. Truths are always true.

If we are complacent we will allow these greedy politicians to implement more of these liberal policies and more people will dependent on government. These people along with those that are already sucked up to the government teat feel they are entitled to these things. Who pays for all this? This entitlement culture was created so that more people would be dependent on government. At what point will the ratio of people getting paid by the government grow to be 1 in 5, and then 1 to 1. What will be the tax rate then? At the current tax rates many people are already paying a significant portion of their wages to cover tax’s (all tax’s not just income taxes) I believe the stats show that the average person now works January through March for the government. And those in the higher tax brackets work until June or July. Let this continue to happen and I can guarantee you at some point you will no longer have your liberty, freedoms and rights because you will be working for the government and they will have all the power, NOT YOU. If you think they will let you have a say/vote once they are in control you are foolish. If we are complacent the people that seek the power over us through Washington will have it. At that point it will no longer be a “government of the people for the people”, but a “government for government” and we will be subject at their mercy and our liberties, rights, and freedoms we enjoy today will vanish.
Some of you at this point may think I’m off my rocker and think all this could never happen. I say it can and will if we are complacent and complicit. This is what they are counting on. Freedom isn’t free people.

Why is it you have to pass a drug test to get a job, and you don't have to take a drug test to get a government handout?

Do you think the stock market and consumer confidence is faling in part because Obama is getting closer to the white house?

Congress and the senate have a lower approval rating than George Bush. Isn’t Obama a member of this body?

Weren’t we doing pretty good until Obama and the others took over the majority of the house and senate?
What was it they did to stop or avoid the economic crisis? Oh yeah, now I remember, they are the ones that created it.

I sure hope we get a chance to put Sarah in the white house. I would love to see her and Nancy Pelosi go at it. Wouldn’t that be great?

Please go vote. But please vote RIGHT.

And yes, God Bless, America,

Byron
 
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There are so many people including the liberal media that hates Bush so much that they will believe and do anything to get their boy into office.

I for one thank Mr. Bush for keeping us safe and the ememy out of our country.



Agree.

I voted today.
 
hey byron,

thanks again for jumping in and taking time (not from but in addition to) your hard working day
i would make one caveat
within your 1 in 10 example of government and their service
included is our (i owe my life and liberty to these guys) military and those of civil protection (police and fire)
i think they are exempted from your statements

Keep it goin pard

NOW I REALLY !!! FIND IT AMAZING THAT THOSE (OTHER THAN "COMING TO THE CALL"...AND I WISH I COULD PUT YOUR PRODUCT IN VERY CAPITAL LETTERS BYRON) WE SUPPORT WITH OUR PURCHASING DOLLARS IN THIS FORUM ARE NOT SPEAKING UP...THEY HAVE HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME TO JUMP IN

please understand...i am not supporting byron's words for the stance or side or for his eloquence here...but because he is in the fight...
again
i would love to hear opinions of other vendors and i wish they were included here


WHAT ARE YOU GUYS AFRAID OF
GOVERNMENT ???
LIBERALS ???
CONSERVATIVES ???
SOCIALISTS ???
CAPITOLISTS ???
SPEAK UP BOYS !!!
WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR OPINIONS !!!

i guess i get it
i do understand...this forum (as i truly believe it should be) is not democratic it has moderators...who could use censure powers !!!
i find it amazing that when a new product is announced here it is in big bold screaming print
and now they are dark (as i said before)

is this the future ??? FOR OUR THOUGHTS AND WORDS ???
is this a good enough example of what could be coming ??

FEAR ???

charske
 
guerowolf,

You’re exactly right in that I support government jobs in the form of the military, and civil servants. God Bless Our Troups.

Thanks for your support and encouragement. You’re not wrong about my day. I've edited video, answered emails booked seminars, consulted with product manufacturers, helped kids with homework fixed supper and when I get through typing this I'll try and get some footage burned to disc for a TV show (Mojo Hunting Across America) and then I will pack for two week trip to Idaho. Tomorrow my day will be just as full as I plan to have lunch with my kids at school while juggling phone calls, emails and ad deadlines and more before I leave for the airport. Ain't nothing to this hunting business. Don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining and in fact I love it. What other country could this be possible? This is why I get so upset when I see people voting for people that want to punish these type efforts by taking what we have worked for and giving it to people that sit on their azz and bietch how unfairly they are treated or how down trodden they are. Without getting to far into my life and the trials I've been through I will just say I wasn't born with a silver spoon, fact is I wish I was born with a spoon. I have no formal educated at all (which is evident by my spelling). I've been on my OWN since I was 15. What I have is from hard work. What I know is from real world, hand on experience. One thing my Granddad told me long ago and has stuck with me since I was kid. He said "if you take advice from someone just make sure they have what you want". This was sound advice. I worked for an old rancher when I was kid. This guy only had a third grade education. I had just got an offer for a partial rodeo scholarship at a pretty good college. I asked him for his advice. He asked me how much money I wanted to make. Of course I said "I don't know". He said 30-40-50 maybe 100K. I said "100k sounds good". He said "how is a college professor making maybe 30 k a year going to show you how to make 100k". He then answered his own question with "he can't, or he wouldn't be teaching school, he be making 100k (remember this was almost 30 years ago). He then said “if you want to make real money you need to work for yourself, work hard, and work smart". Best advice I've ever got. I then took the advice from my granddad and applied it to the advice of the old rancher (who, by the way was a very successful rancher), and haven't looked back. Since that time I've employed many of my classmates with college educations. Imagine that. Now before you get to thinking old Byron is wealthy, I am not, but I have FREEDOM that most people don't.

Way too much about me.

Back to the subject at hand.

I don’t know why other sponsors or business men haven’t chimed in and I certainly can’t speak for them but it could be that they are just too busy, and don’t even know we are having this going on. Could be they are as you said and smart enough not to get involved. I hope this is not their thinking. Remember what I said about how I feel about Complacency. I feel you either stand for something or you stand for nothing.

This is a great country and I just hate to see it go the way it is. To many people just sitting by watching it go to heII and not enough gumption to do or say anything about it. This is the COMPLACENCY I've been speaking about. Sarah Palin (God Bless Her) has been a breath of fresh air and I enjoy seeing how she is scaring the heII out of the liberals. John McCain and many other so called conservatives should take a few pointers from her. She has more backbone, courage, character and integrity than all of Washington combined. I believe I’ve even heard John McCain say she has inspired him. She is a leader I would follow. When the heat turns up I feel I could depend on her sticking to her guns (literally).

Got to run, kids are going to bed and we have to say our prayers, and Dad has got to get back to work. 6 AM will come early.

Thanks for reading my rant.

By the way I do feel George Bush has done an excellent job keeping us safe. Think about where we might be if Gore or Kerry would have won.

Please VOTE and VOTE Right. It ain't over till it's over.

God Bless America

Byron
 
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Very well said Byron!!!

BTW
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Now before you get to thinking old Byron is wealthy, I am not, but I have FREEDOM that most people don't.


I don't know you personally, but from what I've seen from you and about you on this board, you ARE very wealthy. You have a wonderful family, and a God given talent that you are able to utilize almost daily, not to mention Friends that are probably too numerous to count. That goes way beyond the wealth that any amount of money could give you.
 
forum members

this has become a 2 way conversation
i think enough has been said to chew on
albeit, byron's is mixed with the real thing (cope)
so
i will leave it to each of your hearts and minds
and will finish tonight with this
it is possible tonight as i write this that
we will be having a lot more of these coversations
and that we will be listening to SO many sniveling and ranting about their lost gun rights in the future

it is possible you will find me posting in some forum called "Bill of Rights for a new Millenium"
with a socialist government to censure and monitor our thoughts and ideas
and byron will be editing government controlled media with an agent over his shoulder to make sure his business is not going to lose the money he borrowed from the government owned bank
where we can pine for the days we hunted with our fathers and explain to our children and grandchildren just what it was like on a cold crisp morning when we didn't call in a coyote but we shared the best peanut butter sandwich of our lives and watched eagles sore on the endless horizon
when we lament that someone broke into our home and our loved ones screamed for our protection and we had to think about our rights and whether or not we could sufficiently protect them...
things can change mighty fast
a recent line from politicians is
a vice-presidential candidate is only a heart beat from the presidency
well
your gun rights are one LEGISLATIVE decision and the stroke of a gavel away from GONE
just ask those in washington dc

i would like to thank the moderators for allowing this here

i am off to say my prayers


God bless all of you
and
God bless our GREAT NATION

charske
 
If there are any who doubt the resolve of the Democrats to impose draconian restrictions on your right to keep and bear arms, read HR6257.

web pageThe "AW " ban is BACK!

Obama + Super Democratic Legislature = End of 2nd Amendment as we know it! Get out the vote!

Regards,
hm
 
funny
that youtube video is no longer available
and the reporters are off the plane
and no tape will be released by the la times
and hr6257 is just waiting for his signature
and...and
ready ???
I'M NOT !!!

guero
 
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